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2005/10/14 - St. Louis, MO [Savvis Center]

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2005-10-14 Show date
Savvis Center Venue
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2005/10/14 - St. Louis, MO [Savvis Center]
orestes wrote:Please post all reviews, setlists, photographs, etc. here. This thread is reserved for attendees of the show only; do not post if you did not attend the show. You do not need to register to post in this thread, but if you already have an account, it is recommended to log in. Registered users can upload photos. Drunkpoet has a third testicle.
It's true.
Setlist:

Pinion
Love Is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
March of The Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer
Burn
Gave up
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Wish
Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Starfuckers (Trent stopped in the middle and said "we don't do that anymore" then introduced the band and talked about how much he loves autolux...then he said "oh yeah, we're in the middle of a song")
Head Like A Hole


All I can say is fucking awesome!
Bricklayer
1st off...Cubs suck.

2nd - the Setlist absolutely rocked. Trent seemed really invigorated by the crowd and it showed big time by the amount of talking he did. He introduced and thanked Alex for coming onboard in a pretty high pressure situation.

And now the setlist, which featured an addition towards the end:

01.Pinion
02.Love Is Not Enough
03.You Know What You Are?
04.Terrible Lie
05.The Line Begins To Blur
06.March Of The Pigs
07.The Frail
08.The Wretched
09.Closer
10.Burn
11.Gave Up
12.Eraser
13.Right Where It Belongs
14.Beside You In Time
15.Wish
16.Sin
17.Only
18.Reptile
19.Suck
20.Hurt
21.The Hand That Feeds
22.Starfuckers, Inc.
23.Head Like A Hole
Master Traveler
During the break in starfuckers trent was like:

No no! we don't do this anymore, we did it 5 years ago...but not anymore. Everyone laughed, lol.

Great show all in all, my first, and I am very happy. I caught Trent's water bottle during Head Like A Hole.
Bricklayer
nice catch on the water bottle :D i was in section 101; pretty much side stage parallel with the drummer. i loved the club shows in chicago wayyyyyyyyy better, but this one was closer to home so it was worth it :) goddamn am i thirsty as hell. must drink more water. oh yeah, nin needs to stop playing suck. for real. i'm so damn sick of that shitty song :(
Global Mod
I was high up in section 117, row HH to the right side of the stage. Normally, I'd be complaining that these seats sucked, but it didn't really matter after tonight's show. Nice to see Trent talking to the crowd and improving to THTF when the lights malfunctioned.

"Just how deep do you believe? Will you please turn on my lights? Can you please turn on my lights? Will you please turn on my lights?"

And the whole break during Starfuckers.

Autolux rocked along with Queens. And Burn was very energetic. Seeing the delight on my sister's face tonight made it all worthwhile.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Not much to say about the show except for WOW

Autolux sounds like they have some potiental, I haven't heard the record, but I'm guessing it just doesn't translate so well live.

QOTSA was exceptional. Highlight would be the 8-10 minute long version of "No One Knows"

NIN...... do I even have to say it?

Just glad to see Trent responed well to the crowd. Hopefully we'll make the list is he goes around for seconds.
I caught Trent's water bottle during Head Like A Hole.
Didn't get a bottle, but I did get a full facial from Trent during MOTP............with water that is.
Bricklayer
yes.... i got touched a lot. there was this fucking drunk hick/college prep acting like a complete retard... i reprimanded him with a proper elbow... autolux is pure sex... the drummer... ~grovels~ qotsa.... average.... like i expected.... and hate me if you must..... but there is no possible way any "veteran" fans like myself can agree that the new lineup even starts to compare to lohner, finck and clauser, the drummer an exception.... he's new.... and its obvious... but wtf am i bitching about? i was against the rail getting plowed, i made eye contact with trent at least 4 times.... it was fucking amazing... i caught his mic in my ear at the end of "motp" and fought for possession. it was assholes to elbows... it was painful, it was wet, it was RAW!!!! but fucking aaron and the ol' twigster don't match up to the old crew... if anybody got any decent pics of the screen/curtain lemme know, i was too close to get a good view of it :) omfg i'm still wearing bottled water that trent drank out of, maybe theres some of his dna on me!!! For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen !?!? ~falls asleep~
WOW! my 1st nin concert and it was.......FUCKING AMAZING! the crowd was really into it, awesome lights, Trent was cracking me up! "Will you please turn on my lights!" lol, it worked so well im no sure if it was staged or not. and the whole "we stopped doing that 5 years ago" during starfuckers was awesome too Trent-"Oh yeah, were in the middle of a song"

Beside you in Time fucking great
Eraser even better
Reptile.....close to perfect it was scary.
Master Traveler
The 5 and a half years that have passed since my last NIN show were worth the wait. Trent's still the man. I had so much energy after the show, I drove the 2 and a half hours home instead of staying at a friend's house. I think I liked the stage setup for this show better than the previous tours I've been to. Hope someone recorded it. The patdown I got was by far the easiest of the NIN shows I've been to.
i know itsnot right to post if ur not at this show (but i was at seattle, portland and vancouver) and my point is not to brag. i just wanna say that trent has created something that could've not come around at such a time that when i lost a family member, this tour hit home on a level i cannot explain, it has been so theraputic, it might've saved me from whatever was coming next. (and again...im sorry rob....for this i know i should not do, but i do wanna say whats up to all the tourmates who've seen this show up to date, and tell you it beats everything i've witnessed, and its so its so inspiring to be avle to have an artist take a part of your emotianal struggle and be part with one so strong and meaningful, it makes me cry inside. i thank you so much for giving me a chance to be a part of such creativity and nobleness...i cherish these moments forever.

also...good luck to alex, as he has a detrimental role to fill (keep the faith).

fiend had flown into natural submersive paradise.
i remember vegas.
fiend
Bricklayer
It appeared he was pissed with the crowd at the end of MOTP when they sang "doesn't it make you feel better". The crowd came in before Trent started (going for the effect of drawing it out). He got a bit of a scowl on his face then threw the mic into the crowd, kind of like "ok, seems like you don't need me... here's the mic."

I missed the Chicago show, so I don't know if this is "part of the show", but I remember him complaining about the jocks that "used to beat him up" singing along with Closer. (Oh, and the version of Closer on this tour was awesome!)

Speaking of beating up, did anyone else see the fight in the parking garage afterwards? Fourth level, about 10 guys, around 12:15am. Curious for details. You know, rubbernecking and all.
yeah, the people by me on the floor were idiot, during the verses or the quiet singing parts they sung like a cow getting castrated. Let the man sing for christ sake, its ok to sing the chourus or a couple lines here and there. but dont ruin it for the people around you. The crowd was rough considerding the no moshing at the savviss center. It was a fucking great energetic crowed, maybe to energetic for its own good though. next time im getting seats. so then i wont be getting seat on my from Goth people. I felt i was the only one in blue jeans down there. lol. who says you have to wear goth to be a fan of nin? honestly?
WOW.

NIN was fucking amazing, only problem was the cop sittin behind my friend....
QOTSA rocked
Autolux was pretty good other than the horrible screeching
Bricklayer
I agree Cards suck Cubs rock, Sox and Cards together pure joy!!!!
tanner wrote:yeah, the people by me on the floor were idiot, during the verses or the quiet singing parts they sung like a cow getting castrated. Let the man sing for christ sake, its ok to sing the chourus or a couple lines here and there. but dont ruin it for the people around you. The crowd was rough considerding the no moshing at the savviss center. It was a fucking great energetic crowed, maybe to energetic for its own good though. next time im getting seats. so then i wont be getting seat on my from Goth people. I felt i was the only one in blue jeans down there. lol. who says you have to wear goth to be a fan of nin? honestly?
I don't know where you were, but I was ten feet from the stage and there were hardly any goths around. The energy was good, but there were too many people standing there with their arms crossed on their chest and not moving at all. It's a concert--have a little fun people.
<i>but there were too many people standing there with their arms crossed on their chest and not moving at all. It's a concert--have a little fun people.</i>

i would have LOVED to uncross my arms. but, i was 10 feer from the stage, kept getting smashded into by moshers, and pushed over by the wavey thing everyone was doing. everytime i let down my guard, i was nearly knocked the fuck out.

oh, and you forgot a song on the setlist:

where is everybody?
Master ad Vitam
My first NIN show.

Incredible.

I cried during Right Where it Belongs and Hurt, which I never thought I would. The visuals during Eraser and RWIB are amazing, I remember hearing so much about it and didn't think much of it but this is really something to be seen. Very thought provoking and very very intense.

The Line Begins to Blur sounded so good as did Burn. I really would have loved to have seen a change in the setlist but this was good enough for me. At least we got Starfuckers and the venue before us didn't. Closer (The Only Time) sounds so damn good live and it was kind of funny to see people who didn't know of the sudden change in the song, a lot of shocked expressions. Thanks to my girlfriend who was getting very close to me during that song. ;)

Autolux was very good and both me and my two friends Keenan and Kevin that the music is very intresting and different. They defiently got me in the mood for the show. Very art-rock sounding like a Sonic Youth band.

Queens of the Stone Age was decent. I've never really been into them besides a couple songs but they were good nonetheless. A little funny tidbit for everyone...there was one song were Josh kept singing "No....No.....No....No.." so me and my friends were just joking and yelling stuff like "Stop arguing!" "What?" and whenever my friend Kevin yelled "Suck my dick" in a jokingly way Josh yelled out "YES!". That wasn't meant to be a diss towards the band at all because they were fucking awesome but it was just really funny how that worked out. Very creepy Mom sitting in front of me rocking out to all the songs, she must've been there for QotSA anyway.

Back on NIN though, I told myself I wasn't going to be the idiot that sang along to every song but by the time Pinion came on, I found myself FREAKING out. Yes, I sang every song at the top of my lungs but I wouldn't change it for the world. The light show was incredible! Even though I can't really back much up because I wasn't at the Fragility tour but in my opinion the lights and the way everything was set up for the current With Teeth tour is much better. I would love to see this on a concert DVD someday. The band sounded so tight and the drummer was very good but you really couldn't tell much of a difference.
steveosk8s wrote:oh, and you forgot a song on the setlist:

where is everybody?
Yeah..that wasn't played.

Anyway, last night was so much fun and I wish I was still there. I can take one more thing off my "to do list" before I die.
Bricklayer
Hey what was the song they played with the monkey and gw bush at the end?

Oh i did't see any moshers when nin was playing. As i moved back a bit as two dumb asses started a mosh when qosaa was playing.
I was in the outter ring of it.

Was a bit funny to see some girl with purp hair lose her wig. (her and her bf started the mosh) They stoped when she fell down and losed her wig.
Guessing the midwest is this not the mosher area.

Sorry if i misspelled some things
Wow...by far the most stunning visual display I have ever seen. The downward spiral tour changed my views on what a live show can be. That said, I was not all that impressed with the show on the fragility tour. Not that it was bad, but it was not much of an upgrade from the downward spiral tour. They just went to lcd screens instead of a projector. This show however has set a new bar. The way the lcd technology and the projection was combined on some songs was just fuckin crazy. After seeing the club tour in Chicago I expected a scaled down show kind of along those lines, but this was NIN in all its glory. Concert technology has come a long way in the last five years. With a new TOOL album on the way, and I'm sure a following tour, I am salivating at the thought of Maynard trying to one up Trent. I was pleasantly surprised with QOTSA, anyone else notice the 3d look to that tree background they used? Sorry Trent, but Autolux just wasn't entertaining. Go Cubs, fuck the cardinals.
Bricklayer
well, its been several hours since i got back from the show.... anybody have any good pain meds? ugh.... only for trent...... it was all for trent... and for fucks sake... i was right there... right where I belonged... ahem, and in case the girl that i humg out with in line all day, um, alli, Alessandro or something like that.... short term memory loss... if she happens to read this forum... i hope you enjoyed those g.a. tix you scored, i was proud/happy for you, and your one tough mah ma jamma for making it thru the squooshathon that we endured, i hope somehow between the massive amounts of dna we shared that night and the crowd induced dry humping...ahahhaahh, you didn't get pregnant... poor thing, all squooshed, but like i said, no pain, no optimal experience. i have a vivid imagination, but i feel like trent was a bit "unsettled" with his band, fuck i dunno, but he um.. he seemed naked this time around... just a face in the crowd, nothing to worry about. he's still the same trent... but like all of us, he's aging... and he's not too fucking happy about it.... i mean... its obvious?!?! or am i nuts?
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Bricklayer
I was on the rail by Twiggy and there was basically no contact between me and the people behind me. I really expected to be murdered. Didn't happen. Was the moshing very bad on the other side by Aaron? The only time I even came in contact with the person behind me was when I was jamming and came back a bit too far. I'd be making massive headbangs and I'd come back and hit the little girl behind me on her head. I'm sorry dear. I'll bake some cookies and bring them over to your house.
QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE IS SO HORRIBLE I DONT SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN LIKE THEM THEY ARE ALRIGHT STUDIO BUT LIVE THEY ARE SO FUCKING HORRIBLE HIS VOICE BLOWS COCK THEY BLOW COCK, AUTOLOX WAS SO AWESOME EVERYONE AROUND ME LOVED THEM I CAN SEE THEM GOING BIG SOMEDAY
One word for last night...unforgettable.

Autolux was so so. Nothing to write home about....
The drummer was pretty hot...she looked like a dead woman playing the drums..very unique arm movements.

QOTS were suprisingly good. For those of you who said his voice sucked, damn what were YOU listenin to. His voice was amazing. I only knew three of thier songs, but I can honestly say seeing them live has made me incorporate a new interest for them.

NIN...oh my fuckin god. The digital effects were brilliant. The slideshow during Right Where it Belongs was very intense. It literally brought tears to my eyes. The pictures they showed of George Bush with his wifey inspired most of the crowd to raise their fists and chant,"Fuck you!" I have to admit, I was one of those bastards who joined in. I hate the man..
The background line effect on the Line Begins to Blur was awesome.

I loved how Trent kept running his hands over his shaved head. That was fuckin sexy.

My seats were amazing...Section 116. Row G Seat 8...to be exact. Were any of you all near me? I hear people sayin that Trent looked frustereated when we were singing along to the songs. I would think he'd be frustereated if we DIDNT sing along..damn. What are fans for?

Starfuckers was a plesant suprise considering it hasnt been on any current setlists since Jerome left. When they started playing it I must have jumped 30 feet in the air. I grabbed the friend i was with and like groped her and squeezed her ass out of excitedness.
I loved the ending when they thre down their instruments...i just hope they did it because it was the heat of the moment and the end of the show. I hope he was impressed with the crowd. You know how Trent can get when the crowd blows....
All in All....one of the best nights of my life...actually, quite possibly the best.
<3Lucy...St Charles
By the Way, if any of you guys have any pictures, please post them. I need a remembrance of the night. I long to be there again.

Sorry about my horrible spelling on my previous post.
yea, right where it belongs was the highlight of the night, nearly made me cry. the imagery was intense,
the almost entire performed by paino version of hurt was great too.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Am I the only one that noticed that all the security at that show were acting like Nazi Bastards? Watching those assholes harrass everyone almost made me sick. Other than that not a bad show. With the exception of Reptile & Right Where It Belongs I thought Chicago was a better overall show, but that's just my opinion.
Global Mod
pclare wrote:Apologies for posting in this thread since I wasn't there, but could somebody please describe exactly what happened during Sfuckers?

Did Trent just stop playing and start talking, or did he mess with the music first? Next: did they finish the song afterward or go on to the next one? Next: where exactly in the song did this take place, right before the live "fuck you" part / and is that what he was referring to when he said "did that five years ago," or was he referring to the whole song? What did he say? What words did you hear? That's what I want to know. Now. Tell me. Now. Now. All of it. Now. Tell me. YES!
Trent: "Don't you?"

Crowd: "Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? Don't you?"

Trent: "Hey, we did that five years ago. We don't do that anymore. Stop it."

Crowd: *cheers*

Trent: "I just want to thank everyone for coming out tonight to see us. Thanks to Queens of the Stone Age for tagging along and I really want to thank Autolux since tonight is their last show on the tour. They're literally my favorite band right now. Everyone should get their CD. Thanks to our new drummer Alex for coming onboard during a difficult situation and being understanding.

"Oh yeah, we have a song to finish.

Or something like that.
Reic wrote:Oh i did't see any moshers when nin was playing. As i moved back a bit as two dumb asses started a mosh when qosaa was playing.
Uh, yeah holmes. There was plenty of moshing during NIN. I suppose you didn't notice the hordes of people falling over the barricades in the front.

**edited by orestes**keep it on topic, cheesedick.
yea, there was lots of moshing.

i got hit and shoved wuite a bit.

and am i the only one who actualy liked autolux?

i mean, they're a blatant rip off of sonic youth, but they're a good "chill" band.
The concert in St Louis was the best I've ever seen. I'm not from St Louis so when I arrived at the Union Station Mall around 10:45AM, I was dumfounded to see Trent actually walking through the mall (to get to the hotel?) I was too suprised to actually say anything, but I am pretty sure it was him, did anyone else see him around? Just curious, because it could've been a look-a-like. Hope I'm not doing this out of etiquette.
This concert was AMAZING! It was my first NIN concert ever. I would just like to say, it was pretty much the best night of my life. I knew Trent was talented, but after seeing how he performs live I would consiter him god. He is so deeply into what he's singing, and it shows so well. Everything about the show was so0o0o0o0o0o incrediable.
-IF ANYONE HAS PICS, PLEASE POST THEM!

-peace
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syndicate wrote:Am I the only one that noticed that all the security at that show were acting like Nazi Bastards? Watching those assholes harrass everyone almost made me sick. Other than that not a bad show. With the exception of Reptile & Right Where It Belongs I thought Chicago was a better overall show, but that's just my opinion.
The security were unbelievably gracious and attentive to the people near the stage. The only people being pulled were the assholes trying to cause trouble or those who wanted out. Many of the security were passing out cold bottled water to people near the barricade. So, no, I don't think they were nazis. I've been on the floor to many shows, and in many ways, security makes or breaks how enjoyable a show can be.

But I digress. . .

I just arrived home after a near six hour drive from St. Louis. Last night's show was nothing but amazing. Autolux had a short but concrete set list, and QOTSA were very fun and energetic to watch. Alas, Josh only harrassed the crowd during one song.

Me and my friend were on the front row, just to the left of Trent and in front of Aaron. Watching Trent perform at such a close distance can be surreal and absolutely mesmerizing. He was often walking back and forth between the mic stand and drumkit--or table full of water--like a cat on the prowl. I really like the stage setup, especially the minimalism of it; at times the show felt like a club date with the spotlights hung low or the stage bathed in smoke and lights.

The absolute highlight for me was the screened section of the setlist. I've read many comments on Trent's choice of imagery during the songs, but I found the visuals to be more subtle in their directness. The overall message was that there are things and people fucked up in this world, and people choose to ignore them.

The emotional nadir was Right Where It Belongs. Now, I have to admit, I naturally go soft whenever I listen to this song, but it's more been more diffult of late to listen to it without pulling upons personal feelings and situations centered around Katrina. Whenever the song began, I could feel the tears and sadness rise within me. However, instead of trying to suppress such feelings, I just let them come out. When music moves you, you should express it and not be embarassed by how foolish or silly you may be to strangers. (Okay, I'm starting to sound pretentious.) I'm looking at the montage of imagery and the tears won't stop. Whenever Laura and George Bush appear, happily dancing at an Inaugural ball, the crowd started booing loudly. Given any other situation and I might have as well, but instead I let out a huge cry of anguish. End psychobabble.

I have to give credit to Trent for choosing such a gutsy move. Gutsy for not only putting out such an straightforward message on the current politcal and social attitude in this country, but also in its selection in the setlist. It's an intense section of the setlist, and if it was handled by anyone less competent, it could either kill the mood of the concert or come off as a pompous gesture from an ass with a mic. You may disagree with the message, but you have to admire Trent for constantly sticking to his guns.

Anyways, on to less depressing matters! There were some funny moments in the show; a couple of which have been addressed already (Starfuckers and the lights going off during THTF). However, I have personal anecdote to share. During "Suck" a girl right behind thought it would be clever to throw her black, push-up bra onstage. However, she had terrible aim and instead of landing near Trent, it landed at the edge of the stage beside Aaron. Neither Trent nor Aaron acknowledged it's prescence, teehee. But during the next song, Trent picked it up and placed it on Aaron's mic stand. I then get an earful of gleeful screams from said girl, verbally exclaiming her excitment of their *cough* acknowledgment of her tacky gesture. Oh boy!

Also, Aaron almost got a face full of Trent's mic stand during MOTP. :o

I'm a bit tired after the long day I've had, so I'll fill in more details later as they reemerge from my fatigued mind.
Bricklayer
First of all, I'll say that this is my 4th NIN show. The first being on Valentine's Day in 1994.. I really liked the band back then, but seriously this band was fantastic. Aaron was fighting some unknown ninja and that was awesome. I've never seen a ninja guitarist before, and that alone was worth the money..

The visuals were so important during the "screening" part. I actually found myself near tears when it got to the part with the solider pointing a gun to a women's head. I'm glad my 14 year old brother was there to see that. As I was glad my mom was there (yes, my mom is cool, except she's republican).

They were very tight and *recovered* well. The whole band was great, and really played the crowd well.

Queens was really good, but I don't think they felt the crowd (not like there was enough to feel, did you see everyone sitting during them?). They played all their really great songs (minus a few dozen) and my mom thought they had really great lights (evil).

I missed Autolux, sadly.

And St. Louis, start showing more love because it is hard to get the good bands to come here. Just a message from experience...
Bricklayer
Well I just got back home to Iowa tonight after a long drive there and a long drive back. I have seen the club show, the Chicago show a week ago, and now this show this time around. Here are my opinions on this show.

As far as the band being "on" I would say this is the best I have seen. Trent was on, Aaron was on, long setlist, Trent was talkitive, and great sound. My only problem with the show was the crowd.

I brought my little brother down as a surprise. He has never seen Nails, or really any other "big" band for that matter. I told him at about 9 the night before that we were leaving in the morning to go see them. The kid just sat there in shock with a big smile on his face not knowing what to say.

Onto the crowd at this show. I was probably about 15 people back and straight in front of Aaron before the show started. I was almost in exactly the same spot to start out at the Chicago show. I heard pinion start, said "here we go" and nobody moved. I waited a second as it grew louder and the lights went off. Nobody moved. Other than me and my brother there were maybe 1-2 other people around I saw moving forward. At the Chicago show there was a small push for those that realized Pinion was playing. Then a giant push with the lights went off. I think people not doing this, or not realizing the song put a damper on the rest of my night.

Anyways, Love is Not Enough started and some people were singing. Most everybody standing. Odd, but although I like the song, I don't think it is the greatest opener. Then You Know What You Are started and NOBODY was moving except bobbing there heads. People were actually standing around smoking. I couldn't beleive it. At this point in the show I was really worried for my brother. I wanted him to experience what I have at the other Nails shows.

A few later MOTP hits and people start moving around a little more. I think the mosh pit actually kicked in about then. I still couldn't believe how many people were just standing. At this point I told my brother to go for it. He hopped in the moshpit and worked his way to dead center front. Got about 3 people away front Trent. I moved up a bit, but only about 8ish people back. I was still kinda of aching from the Chicago show, and really wanted to be able to check out the visuals better this time.

None the less it was still a great concert. Like I said, as far as the band, this is the best that I have seen them. To bad the crowd sucked. If I had the crowd from the Chicago show, and the performance from tonight mixed it would easily be the best Nails show I have been to. Whereas right now, the recent Chicago show is the best due to the crowd. Also, just as a hint, a good way to tell how good the crowd is is by the reaction to Closer starting. In Chicago there was a pretty decent cheer, but pretty much the same as to most songs. Here it was about 10x the cheer of any other song.

Oh, and to the person who said that the security sucked, I have no clue what you are talking to. Of all the Nails shows I have been to this year that was by far the most lax. The people in the place as a whole were. I was suprised when I bought a water and they let me take the actual bottle of water. That came in great for shoving in my jeans, and saving for the concert.

Also, I don't know if anybody else saw this, but the guy who was walking up the street towards Hampton Inn screaming "NINE INCH NAILS" at cars waiting for lights to turn, and gangster looking guys walking by was awesome. The jesus pamplets being handed out to people in line were also pretty funny. I got one, and it was something completely different being advertised on the outside. Open it up and nothing but Jesus advertisements. I couldn't help but yell out, "you tricky bastards." :P

Lastly, if anybody has pictures or videos to this show I would really appreciate them. If you could post or pm them to me that would be great. I would really like to get them and send them to my brother.
Bricklayer
early in the show, aaron north was running back n forth on stage, reznor thru his mic stand andnorth was inches away from getting smashed in the face. anyone see that? seriously...it was friggin close
Site Admin
Yes, it was during March of the Pigs.
Better than the Fragility tour. Hands fucking down.
Bricklayer
acidsin wrote: I heard pinion start, said "here we go" and nobody moved. I waited a second as it grew louder and the lights went off. Nobody moved. Other than me and my brother there were maybe 1-2 other people around I saw moving forward. At the Chicago show there was a small push for those that realized Pinion was playing. Then a giant push with the lights went off. I think people not doing this, or not realizing the song put a damper on the rest of my night.
Damn right. The second I heard the first note of Pinion, I expected a little bit of a cheer. Nothing. I really expected to be crushed into the rail at the front. Nothing. I saw some people moving forward, but there was never a "push." I was really disappointed in the crowd.
Global Mod
beltzerseltzer wrote:
acidsin wrote: I heard pinion start, said "here we go" and nobody moved. I waited a second as it grew louder and the lights went off. Nobody moved. Other than me and my brother there were maybe 1-2 other people around I saw moving forward. At the Chicago show there was a small push for those that realized Pinion was playing. Then a giant push with the lights went off. I think people not doing this, or not realizing the song put a damper on the rest of my night.
Damn right. The second I heard the first note of Pinion, I expected a little bit of a cheer. Nothing. I really expected to be crushed into the rail at the front. Nothing. I saw some people moving forward, but there was never a "push." I was really disappointed in the crowd.
There were cheers coming from the stands because all of the people on my side started going nuts once "Pinion" started. Are you guys JUST referring to the floor or the whole arena in general? Our section was electric and didn't stop buzzing until "Eraser" started playing.
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They must be talking about their area of the floor because once the show started, there was a noticable push from people behind me.
2 seconds after pinion turned on i was crushed...........its also really hard to start moving once you stand through to shitty bands before nin, if they had a better opener i think people would moved more, but i dont think the crowed was tame, i was getting swayed back in forth all night, got knocked down like 4 times, the funnnies thing was near the end, this dudw was crowd surfing, then he came to like a 4 foot hole where no one was there and they flipped him up and he hit the ground hard, then out of no where this girl kicks hi in the face and yells something. hiliarous!
Master of the Ninth Arch
It's wierd. Most of the crowd movement seemed to come from the right side of the floor.

I started out front and center, and there was a good amount of movement when Pinion started. But as I was pushed towards the right, things seemed to get ALOT more violent. When I was farthest to the right was also the only time I saw a true pit.

And as I made my way back to the left, I noticed everyone there was rather tame. One of the problems I noticed though was there were alot of people on the floor that really shouldn't have been there. Whenever the crowd would start moving for Queens or NIN, it was nothing but crying and complaing.

Not to be sexiest but all I could here were a bunch of girls screaming, "Stop pushing me!! I'm not pushing!!" I saw plenty of girls though that were all into the experience, but it's just ones like that, that try to get guys to "play nice", that ruins it.

On the guys end though I saw two or three couples where the guy is doing nothing but trying to start a fight with everyone that "touched thier girl"
acidsin wrote: As far as the band being "on" I would say this is the best I have seen. Trent was on, Aaron was on, long setlist, Trent was talkitive, and great sound. My only problem with the show was the crowd.


Onto the crowd at this show. I was probably about 15 people back and straight in front of Aaron before the show started. I was almost in exactly the same spot to start out at the Chicago show. I heard pinion start, said "here we go" and nobody moved. I waited a second as it grew louder and the lights went off. Nobody moved. Other than me and my brother there were maybe 1-2 other people around I saw moving forward. At the Chicago show there was a small push for those that realized Pinion was playing. Then a giant push with the lights went off. I think people not doing this, or not realizing the song put a damper on the rest of my night.
I see where you are coming from but here's my take - I was 3-5 back on the right side in front of Aaron. There was a noticeable line of movement in the crowd--I believe you were in the part of the crowd that didn't move much. All I know is that I have bruises, sore muscles, and a broken toe that back up my opinion. As soon as Pinion began--there was a push on my side. Have you considered that people want to gear up for the band--silence instead of cheering is sometimes more of a compliment? Some have said that the look of Trent's face during MOTP was one of disgust about the crowd singing and not waiting for him--I saw it as "this is just hilarious, so typical"--as his comment during Starfuckers supports the crowd's typical response.

I thought the crowd in St. Louis was amazing--around me at least. I met some really nice people, who let me do my thing--I mean go to the bathroom three times and still get back to my friends, even though we were that close. As for people smoking, I smoked during Hurt or--shit, I can't even remember. I realized that I needed something because my adrenaline and seratonin were way out of whack--nicotine has a calming effect on most smokers. Sure it sucks for those non-smokers, but the addiction really sucks for ALL involved.

I wish your experience had been more similar to mine. It seemed like a typical St. Louis crowd--just enough fun for ALL without broken noses or worse injuries. This crowd was much better than the Fragility crowd--now that was embarrassing.

Love in Not Enough is not a good opener, IMHO. However, maybe it does prevent some of the "push" injuries that you missed so much. I'd be interested to hear TR's reason for using it as the opener.
Bricklayer
Perhaps I was just in bad spots of the crowd. Like I said the last two shows I have been at in Chicago, and it just seemed that the whole crowd was really amped up the whole show there. St. Louis, from my experience, didn't seem to be this way. It could just be luck, and this is not a rip on St Louis as a whole. :P In fact most of the actual people I met around there seemed really cool.

As for the smoking comment. Read that and know that I smoke a pack a day. I smoke all the time when I am drinking, driving, and at events where it is allowed. The reason why I mentioned people smoking is because they were doing it during high energy songs. I just can't even fathom that. I want all of my energy and focus on the show. I can even moreso understand people that smoke during RWIB, but I couldn't even imagine myself doing that. By that time my throat is usually dry and sore anyways, so a smoke doesn't sound great. :P
Master of the Ninth Arch
Some have said that the look of Trent's face during MOTP was one of disgust about the crowd singing and not waiting for him--I saw it as "this is just hilarious, so typical"--as his comment during Starfuckers supports the crowd's typical response.
I honestly don't think Trent was upset about anything during MOTP. Don't forget, he also launched a mic stand in Aaron's direction. Does that mean he was mad at him? Seemed like a typical MOTP performance to me.
Master of the Ninth Arch
this show rocked. and was my first show that i wasnt on the floor. so..on to my question....does anyone have the setlist for the music that was played before nails came on stage? i recall trent releasing a list at one time...but is was this the same?
thanks
Master of the Ninth Arch
So, I am back from STL. My boyfriend and me stayed for the weekend and did some random tourist things while down there... but NIN was fucking awesome. I am still bummed about the M&G, because it was my boyfriend's b-day and all (some of you saw him pouting on the stairs in the parking garage), but all is well.

We left at 5AM from Indiana, got there around 11 something. Got in line, I think I was #22 at 11:45ish. Met some AWESOME people in line. I hope they all had a great time, especially those who helped us keep our spots in line for GA (Greg, Kye (?), and the notorious HornyDevil). Everyone was awesome!

Anyway, we were up on the rail, right in front of Jeordie. Fucking awesome view of everything. I am kinda glad I wasn't front and center, because we still got some pushing, but it was really enjoyable. I didn't worry about my spot and had an excellent time.

I have pictures, but I need to unpack to find my cable, so I will upload them tonight! I got some good ones, and a short video of Head Like A Hole.
trent was not disgusted with the crowd. you can tell, he enjoyed it, i mean, he was talking durning starfuckers, people ALWAYS sing every word of every song he does live, im sure hes used to it by now.

hell, i dont normally sing, but i found myself singing the words to EVERY song. i never realized i knew the words to so many of NIN's songs LOL.


yea there was a lot of movement on the right side.

i have wounds to prove it. i was about 5 people bakc fro mthe stage, on the right side.
Bricklayer
I don't really have much more to say about what has been covered. I thought it wa an awesome show. I met A lot of cool people Standing in the Spiral Line and during the Intermissions.

I probably got a few Looks for looking like a "Hick Preppie"(WTF is that, anyway?) as someone said earlier. My Defense? I'm 26 years old, and i'll wear whatever the hell i want to a NIN show. Also, it was nice to actually enjoy the music and the general camaraderie That was going on with people who never have seen each other before. Moshing was fun when i was 15 During the TDS tour and didn't give a shit about what i broke, but I've got a few more gray hairs these days and no insurance.

For reference, i was the fat guy in the wife-beater, faded carhartt brown pants, and ugly haircut on the floor to the left of TR, about 5-8 people back for the most part.

Wish i coulda met more of you ETS kids, but i forgot to Marker in "ETS" on the back of my shaved head, and that would have looked kinda stupid anyway :)

P.S.(on the off-chance that she or someone she knows comes here) Melissa wth the Septum piercing: You were hot and i should have hit on you after the show.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I finally got to see this concert, and it was mind blowing. Apparently it was Autolux's last preformance. One of my favorite moments was when trent stopped in the middle of StarFuckers, Inc. and said, "Come on, guys, that was so five years ago"(at the part were everyone is suppose to say, "don't you, don't you.."). I <3 Trent. It was the greatest concert eVAR! :]
I can't say anything about Nine Inch Nails' performance that hasn't been said (i.e. it was amazing), but I can't believe no one has mentioned this: maybe I'm just too sensitive or something, but how the hell did anyone think it would be a good idea to have 18 huge fucking spotlights shining on the crowd during Queens of the Stone Age?!?! For the people on the floor at least, it was impossible to even look at the stage without being blinded. Was no one else bothered by this??
Master Traveler
Awesome pictures, April.
I was at the StL show, as well as the show last week in Chicago and definitely thought this show was the better of the two, although nothing can really compare with the energy of the club shows earlier this year. I am still amazed at how quickly Alex has jumped in, what an amazing musician. I am so sick of reading posts of people bitching about the tiniest of details concerning nin's performance. can you do everything perfectly every day? i didnt think so. I am shocked that people are so critical of the musicians.. saying that QOTSA sucks and Autolux need to go practice.. People forget that this is a performance, it is being created FOR you, right in front of you. If you want absolute perfection with no missed lighting cues and the perfect drum track, go to one of those lip synch uber-programmed boyband concerts.

I think the real thing that needs to change at shows is the crowd. the performance of the audience is just as important at a show. I have been to hundreds of shows of all sizes and am still baffled at the way people behave. They tend to forget that everyone else is there to enjoy the show too. Like the 50 year old morons that weasel their way in front of me on the floor and then proceed to carry a loud conversation during QOTSA's entire performance blocking my view and ruining my experience. If you wanna talk... do it in the car. And dont get me started on the fucking pot smokers. how fucking rude is it when some fuckhead next to you lights up and gags you out. man.. do that shit in the car before the show. there was literally someone lighting up during HLAH... like dude... come on. you have 30 seconds of show left. And when I politely asked him not to do it.. he told me i should go stand somewhere else. well buddy, thats where your wrong. you can take your ILLEGAL ACTIVITY and go fuck YOURself somewhere else.

i believe there should be a screening process to determine if someone should have GA floor tickets or not. If you're going to get GA tickets to a nin concert, want to get close to trent, but then bitch about being smashed... you're living in some other dreamland. this is a fucking NIN show... before you buy tickets, do your research and know what you're getting yourself into. Front row at a willie nelson concert is a completely different experience than front row at a nails show... and yes, i have been to both.

and i'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all of the pieces of shit that thought they needed to piss on a powerful moment by yelling during those amazing quiet moments during RWIB.. yes buddy, we know you're here... we're all here. now shut the fuck up.

it really comes down to etiquette... just let other people enjoy the show.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. Please be aware of other people at the concerts. It is their experience too.
Bricklayer
s8tn wrote:I was at the StL show, as well as the show last week in Chicago and definitely thought this show was the better of the two, although nothing can really compare with the energy of the club shows earlier this year. I am still amazed at how quickly Alex has jumped in, what an amazing musician. I am so sick of reading posts of people bitching about the tiniest of details concerning nin's performance. can you do everything perfectly every day? i didnt think so. I am shocked that people are so critical of the musicians.. saying that QOTSA sucks and Autolux need to go practice.. People forget that this is a performance, it is being created FOR you, right in front of you. If you want absolute perfection with no missed lighting cues and the perfect drum track, go to one of those lip synch uber-programmed boyband concerts.

I think the real thing that needs to change at shows is the crowd. the performance of the audience is just as important at a show. I have been to hundreds of shows of all sizes and am still baffled at the way people behave. They tend to forget that everyone else is there to enjoy the show too. Like the 50 year old morons that weasel their way in front of me on the floor and then proceed to carry a loud conversation during QOTSA's entire performance blocking my view and ruining my experience. If you wanna talk... do it in the car. And dont get me started on the fucking pot smokers. how fucking rude is it when some fuckhead next to you lights up and gags you out. man.. do that shit in the car before the show. there was literally someone lighting up during HLAH... like dude... come on. you have 30 seconds of show left. And when I politely asked him not to do it.. he told me i should go stand somewhere else. well buddy, thats where your wrong. you can take your ILLEGAL ACTIVITY and go fuck YOURself somewhere else.

i believe there should be a screening process to determine if someone should have GA floor tickets or not. If you're going to get GA tickets to a nin concert, want to get close to trent, but then bitch about being smashed... you're living in some other dreamland. this is a fucking NIN show... before you buy tickets, do your research and know what you're getting yourself into. Front row at a willie nelson concert is a completely different experience than front row at a nails show... and yes, i have been to both.

and i'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all of the pieces of shit that thought they needed to piss on a powerful moment by yelling during those amazing quiet moments during RWIB.. yes buddy, we know you're here... we're all here. now shut the fuck up.

it really comes down to etiquette... just let other people enjoy the show.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. Please be aware of other people at the concerts. It is their experience too.


thankyou for posting this! thank god someone has acknowledged that the band is there working their ass off for us fans and hitting a brick wall in return. Trent is the only musican i know that updates PERSONALLY two different websites to tell the FANS whats going on...so what if the messages are elusive at times...he is BUSY spending every waking moment perfecting this tour for US. quit bitching
s8tn wrote:I was at the StL show, as well as the show last week in Chicago and definitely thought this show was the better of the two, although nothing can really compare with the energy of the club shows earlier this year. I am still amazed at how quickly Alex has jumped in, what an amazing musician. I am so sick of reading posts of people bitching about the tiniest of details concerning nin's performance. can you do everything perfectly every day? i didnt think so. I am shocked that people are so critical of the musicians.. saying that QOTSA sucks and Autolux need to go practice.. People forget that this is a performance, it is being created FOR you, right in front of you. If you want absolute perfection with no missed lighting cues and the perfect drum track, go to one of those lip synch uber-programmed boyband concerts.

I think the real thing that needs to change at shows is the crowd. the performance of the audience is just as important at a show. I have been to hundreds of shows of all sizes and am still baffled at the way people behave. They tend to forget that everyone else is there to enjoy the show too. Like the 50 year old morons that weasel their way in front of me on the floor and then proceed to carry a loud conversation during QOTSA's entire performance blocking my view and ruining my experience. If you wanna talk... do it in the car. And dont get me started on the fucking pot smokers. how fucking rude is it when some fuckhead next to you lights up and gags you out. man.. do that shit in the car before the show. there was literally someone lighting up during HLAH... like dude... come on. you have 30 seconds of show left. And when I politely asked him not to do it.. he told me i should go stand somewhere else. well buddy, thats where your wrong. you can take your ILLEGAL ACTIVITY and go fuck YOURself somewhere else.

i believe there should be a screening process to determine if someone should have GA floor tickets or not. If you're going to get GA tickets to a nin concert, want to get close to trent, but then bitch about being smashed... you're living in some other dreamland. this is a fucking NIN show... before you buy tickets, do your research and know what you're getting yourself into. Front row at a willie nelson concert is a completely different experience than front row at a nails show... and yes, i have been to both.

and i'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all of the pieces of shit that thought they needed to piss on a powerful moment by yelling during those amazing quiet moments during RWIB.. yes buddy, we know you're here... we're all here. now shut the fuck up.

it really comes down to etiquette... just let other people enjoy the show.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. Please be aware of other people at the concerts. It is their experience too.
i agree with all of this OTHER than the pot smoking part, it's a concert lighten up man
Master of the Ninth Arch
mbw314 wrote:I can't say anything about Nine Inch Nails' performance that hasn't been said (i.e. it was amazing), but I can't believe no one has mentioned this: maybe I'm just too sensitive or something, but how the hell did anyone think it would be a good idea to have 18 huge fucking spotlights shining on the crowd during Queens of the Stone Age?!?! For the people on the floor at least, it was impossible to even look at the stage without being blinded. Was no one else bothered by this??
Yea, forgot about that.

It was pretty bad for me too. There was just one light that was dead center to my eyes, and it was going in a rotation. The ONLY way for me to to see it was to look completly down.
Thanks soooo much for the pictures April. You are amazing for that and I'll cherish them :) As for the guy who was complainin about pot-smokin---i agree. Lighten up man. You might as well have not even gone to the concert. It seems you didn't soak up any of its amazingness...I mean if Nine Inch Nails can't loosen you up, then what the fuck can???

<3Lucy
in you post, s8n, all u fuckin did is complain. Sorry if my response erks you, it just annoyed me. Sorry. :)
gbootylulu wrote:in you post, s8n, all u fuckin did is complain. Sorry if my response erks you, it just annoyed me. Sorry. :)
it's cool. I just didnt feel the need to talk about how awesome the show was and rehash all the exact details that everyone else had already stated. the show was amazing, and aside from a few dipshits it was a very pleasant experience overall.

I thought autolux were awesome, their homemade lighting boxes were unique and were simple yet effective. Their performance was inspiring to me as a musician. I did think qotsa's set sounded a little tired. I have seen them before and these past few shows werent their greatest. That drummer of theirs is trying so hard to pull of the stuff the Grohl had laid down and it came close.. but there were noticeable tempo changes in the middle of songs which.. arent that big of a deal, but maybe he should just simplify things a bit. Josh Homme does have an amazing voice though, i still cant get over the fact that Nick is gone and Mark Lanegan wasnt with them. that being said.. even seeing a not-so-great band live is still better than sitting at home in front of my computer all evening.

I do think one of the reasons for the crowd on the floor being a little 'weird' is the fact that there were SO MANY secuirty guards down there... i cant count how many times they went blazing past me to tell someone to put out their cigarette or to stop a crowd surfer. Which was annoying, but welcomed in a way.. i wish other venues took their security this seriously. At other venues, including one in my hometown (Peoria, IL) i have seen everything from hundreds of people jumping the barrier to get on the floor.. up through people picking up the plywood coving the ice, passing it around overhead with a couple morons dancing on top. and the security did nothing. When i pay $60 to go to a show.. getting hit in the face with a piece of 3/4" plywood isnt part of the plan. So.. thumbs up to the staff at Savvis Center.

yes, the show was awesome, yes.. nin totally blew me away.. again. and finally yes... i do wish i was a stockholder of Hot Topic after seeing all the bullshit gothwear at the show.
Bricklayer
I agree that the security guards were being dicks to smokers but thats just what they were told to do. And there were a ton of them there.

I think QOTSA put on a pretty good show. I didn't expect them to be very good, but i was surprised. Autolux wasn't the best but they were ok. but the nails on the other hand were amazing. Much better than the Fragility tour. I wasn't at any of the club tour dates but I heard they were really good there. but as for the savvis center, it was a great show. And I thought it was pretty cool that we have been one of the few to see starfuckers on this tour.

The one bad thing about the show is that there were a ton of people in the pit that didn't need to be there.
Bricklayer
I weaseled my way down into the pit and it was retarded. There was like 3 or 4 humongous guys just beating the crap out of anyone that came near them. I hate people that goto concerts just looking to knock the crap out of people. I also found it rather amusing that during some of the more techno songs some kids came in the pit and started break dancing. That's something I'll never forget.
dead_skin_mask wrote:I weaseled my way down into the pit and it was retarded. There was like 3 or 4 humongous guys just beating the crap out of anyone that came near them. I hate people that goto concerts just looking to knock the crap out of people. I also found it rather amusing that during some of the more techno songs some kids came in the pit and started break dancing. That's something I'll never forget.

lol yea, im all for moshing, i lvoe to do it, BUT i HATE when its all 400 pound beefcake body builders that have roid rage. id liek to mosh, not have my teeth knocked out and be sent out on a stretcher.
Bricklayer
This show was so amazing...hard and aggressive. Are any of you premium spiral members? I am only a standard member and noticed on the fan club website that in the Chicago video people were allowed to come and watch sound check. Did they allow that in St. Louis? Any meet and greets with Trent in STL? I have to know if I was missing out on that.
Master of the Ninth Arch
malevolent wrote:This show was so amazing...hard and aggressive. Are any of you premium spiral members? I am only a standard member and noticed on the fan club website that in the Chicago video people were allowed to come and watch sound check. Did they allow that in St. Louis? Any meet and greets with Trent in STL? I have to know if I was missing out on that.
I am a premium member. There was no soundcheck or M&G at STL... total bummer.

And for the security guards, I think they were all pretty cool. They were being hardasses about smoking, but who knows what can happen when someone gets burned or something like that happens. The guard in front of us was really cool with giving us lots of water and kept things pretty calm in front of Jeordie. We did get some pushing and such, but I never worried about losing my rail and got great shots from my view.
my husband and i have been listing to trent for years.
this was my first concert at savvis(not my first NIN show).
we were in the pit(naturally, where else would you be at a NIN show????)
the only negative thing i have to say about it is......SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR WERE MORONS!!! THERE IS AT LEAST A SMALL AMOUNT OF EDICATE WHEN YOUR BEATING EACH OTHERS ASSES, MAKE SURE YOUR NOT REALLY HURTING SOMEONE!!!!! then there was the fight that broke out in the parking gargage. if you have any info on that let me know.
THE SHOW WAS AWESOME! TRENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GENIUS. my husband and i will always remember this show
Bricklayer
Oh and did any of you notice Trent forgot some of the words to only?
Star_Fucker wrote:Oh and did any of you notice Trent forgot some of the words to only?
yes...i noticed that...i was singing along in my head and thought....wtf...did he just screw up?...i looked around and no one else said anything...so i dismissed it.
Master of the Ninth Arch
dgudeut wrote:
Star_Fucker wrote:Oh and did any of you notice Trent forgot some of the words to only?
yes...i noticed that...i was singing along in my head and thought....wtf...did he just screw up?...i looked around and no one else said anything...so i dismissed it.
There was another time where I looked at him, and was like... Holy crap, he doesn't remember the words... But I am not sure what song it was because it wasn't really a big deal. I just remembered it from you saying something about it.... Hell, it was probably Only.
Bricklayer
it won't be much longer before this show has been overanalyzed to the point of non-existance. and of course, since i'm a filthy smoker and i was choking everyone in the WHOLE arena with my highly toxic herbal vapors, i can't remember exactly, but it seems like trent didn't "forget" words to only, but rather mixed 2 lines up... don't credit my recollection of it though. i can only hope that i was one of the violent ogres on the floor that ruined someone's show... i'm a semi large man... yes.... i had basically 1 of the top 5 most desired spots on the floor, at the rail, front row and center. had i been "passive" and not used my brute ogre size and strength, someone of a douche like nature would have had my spot. you'd like that wouldn't you? you'd have much rather seen captain pimpleneck in my spot or even worse, mr. hickprep... (you know who you are) actually, anyone whom i elbowed or punched during the last half of qotsa or the nin set most likely wasn't capable of reading or writing... so chances are, you don't know who you are. and as for the security staff... yes they made it hard for me to do drugs in public.... but you know what? they also kept me and my gf hydrated, and they saved a few people who weren't quite prepared to give a little bit of themselves to stay up front. i certainly would not have wanted to collapse where i was. and oh my fuck!!! did anyone else experience the huge fat bitch right up front with her mom?!?! the one who was doing something of a reverse hungry hippos ass thrust at people at an attempt to........well.... i'm not sure what she was doing, but her thrusting ass power was intimidating.... honestly, i'll admit it, i punched the bitch in the ass cheek :)) it had to be done..... i hope i left a bruise, repulsive piece of shit....
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Bricklayer
Hey, I'm all for not inhaling deathclouds of carcinogens at shows. It makes me nauseas. props to the event staff for that. I would like to complain about how, and this is common at most shows, people think they have about 3-4 feet of room around them on all sides and they move around backwards so close to you you'd think you were lovers (yet you yourself cannot move backwards without bumping into someone). Or the ones with long hair/pony tails that want to thrash wildly around hitting you repeatedly in the face.

I was in the mid-right center of the floor and yeah, there was tons of movement. I got enveloped in a mosh pit during MOTP. I don't appreciate people trying to push you back in if you don't want to get your shit fucked up. I got around those a-holes and pushed them in.

Aside from all that it was an amazing show! Thanks for the pictures! If anyone's got a recording of the show I sure would like it. Autolux was great. I don't know what people are talking about. It's popular to heckle the opener but I think they put on a good show. Hell, they even rigged up their own lights. I bought their cd after I got back. Qotsa was good, but I just wasn't in the mood...

Nin was great. Awesome set, Awesome stage show, great energy, great performance. I was moved by the projection segment of the set—Great segway.

I did notice the fuck-up on Only. To me it sounded like he just went in on the verse before he should have.

The day after I drove back home to see KMFDM (autolux was also playing but i decided on kmfdm because i'd seen them the night before) (yeah, I live in Lawrence, KS)
Bricklayer
$50- Total price of gas for the trip.
$120- Total price of two tickets via NIN Ticketmaster auction
$$$- various clothing purchases for said concert and food
$20- St Louis NIN Lithograph

Seeing the look of utter amazement on my little sister’s face when the NIN finally took the stage……and then after the concert her telling me that she was now a NIN convert…..priceless!

I’ve had other things going on since Friday, so I didn’t have time to post here. We were in section 116 row C…I thought we’d be in the 3rd row but they closed off the first two rows with rails so we were in fact in the first row of that section. So overall our view was fantastic and everyone around us was so nice. I couldn’t get any pics because every time I’d attempt to take out my phone or camera the security person stationed right in front of me would whip out his flashlight and just stare me down. So thanks April for the fabulous pics.

I felt a little strange sitting down during QOTSA…I would have rather stood but everyone behind me seemed to be satisfied sitting so I didn’t want to rock the boat so I just danced in my seat.

I pretty much thought that Trent was on from the moment he took the stage….for that matter everyone involved seemed to be in top form. The energy was amazing! Everyone around us stood the entire time and they were all really into it. I’ve been a fan since 1990 and this was the first show I was actually able to attend and I was not disappointed. It was the without a doubt the best concert I’ve ever been to. From my viewpoint the crowd was awesome…everyone seemed energized. It was so worth the hours of drive time and lack of sleep.

To the guys in the parking garage who let the girls in the green Jeep out thanks so much. Heaven knows how long we would have been there if it hadn’t been for you.

Another great thing is that now my sister is so into NIN…she called me earlier asking about “Halo’s”….I may shed a tear.
I don't know why but no one has complained about the beer yet. I'm sorry, but after getting spat on twice by an underage girl and bumped into by her drunk-ass boyfriend time after time he went to go get more alcohol (by the way--I don't see how people can bitch about weed and say nothing about alcohol... what a ridiculous policy), I couldn't help but wish for some kind of limitation to be imposed on those people who felt compelled to get 6-10 beers over the course of the show. If I were NIN, or QOTSA or Autolux, I would be pissed at these people who aren't willing to savor the music and instead require intoxification as some kind of synergist. It's degenerate.

I really do believe something like a 3 beer limit should be imposed. If you need more fucking beer than that over the course of 3 hours, then drink up before you come in, asshole--that way security will have a good chance to bust your ass for drunk in public. Excessive alcohol is such a joke.

Now I will say that the weed/tobacco smokers were definitely a pain (especially when they kept drawing men with flashlights... over and over and over), but at least they weren't bumping into me and spitting up on me all night. Sure they were dicks for not getting it out of the way before the show, but at least they were attempting to be semi-private about their vices, whereas the boozeheads were just a bunch of dicks. One drunk guy and his leatherclad adolescent girlfriend even got pissed that I was really chipping in on the chorus of "Suck" (it was one of those moments that seemed, to me, like audience participation was very welcome and/or appropriate, and I sing at any plausible opportunity... basically I sang through the whole show except for Eraser--Beside You In Time).

In spite of all of these psychologically and perhaps physically addicted morons, I had quite a good time at the show, simply because I made a conscious effort to savor all of the music, and NIN in particular. To be honest, this was one of the best concerts I've ever seen, and not just due to musicianship, which itself was quite incredible, but also due to the intense energy that the band, Trent in particular, exudes. On top of that, there were the very deep moments like the video section of the show, and such songs as "Hurt", "Only", and "Reptile" which always get to me for their respective reasons.

Oh yeah... and a 20ish woman in front of me hippy danced the whole time, and I just wanted to ask her... "Why? Why hippy dance?" But the truth is, it was funny.

Oh and to everyone commenting about no reaction to Pinion... I guess that was only local to your spot, it seemed to me that the whole arena came alive to the sound of Pinion. Also, just an in general, I think a passive audience is a very nice thing sometimes, displaying a lot of intelligence, even at an energetic show. There's a difference between bored and passive, and it's only a little subtle: as for me, I don't like to "rock out", I like to contemplate when I listen. At A Perfect Circle that was actually the norm, whereas at NIN it seemed like most people were into the "rock out" scene. I don't care which you choose, but be considerate to the other orientation's decision. And don't drink loads of beer either way, because then I WILL get pissed.
Master Traveler
At $8.50 a beer, how could anyone afford more than 3? I thought the $6.25 it costs at Busch was bad.
Master Traveler
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I totally loved the show. I am going thru a bit of a depression because it may be awhile before there is another NIN concert. Anyone hear any dates for near future NIN concerts. I heard there may be an extension of the tour.
Bricklayer
This was the best of all the concerts I went to, even though I was to the upper left of the stage and a lot of the times when the lights went down it cut off their heads. I got the chance to get a better view in Cinci. though which was cool.
Master ad Vitam
Any news on a bootleg of sorts for this show?
Bricklayer
Meh. This has been dead for awhile. Awesome show. Spent 110 on tickets. about 70 on gas. 70 on a hotel room. 20 on a lithograph. 40 on a shirt. and around 5 at ihop for coffee and water afterwords.

This set list was about everything I could have wanted to hear him play. I was dead center from row against the fence. Now if he comes anywhere near.... 600 miles of me. I'll definitly go again.

I would kill for a bootleg or a video though. ;)
Master Traveler
I thin I spent around $110 bucks for the wife and I's tickets. Definity worth it to have everyone from The Hill with us rockin' out, and being able to initiate a couple of newbies. I'd really be interested in audio or video of this show. Can't wait until they come back around!
Master ad Vitam
Was 2008 better than 2005?
Master Traveler
Good question. I just watched the DVD last night, and I was pondering the same thing. I think that the stage setup for 2008 was way cooler. Song selection is kinda hard, since there is a ton of new stuff that is out. Terrible Lie really freakin' rocked in 2005, though!
Master ad Vitam
DVD? What is this you speak of??
Master Traveler
Beside You in Time. Sorry, after I wrote that, I realised that I might be getting a bunch of hopes up for a bootleg. Wish it were so, but I'm still looking for one as well.
Master ad Vitam
Haha, damn. :D