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2005/07/02 - Werchter, BEL [Rockwerchter]

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2005-07-02 Show date
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2005/07/02 - Werchter, BEL [Rockwerchter]
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Where exactly on the site? Because i saw a piece with live stream, but it said it didn't have a concert at the moment, and to check back later...
Grand Pontiff
We are talking about this in http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/v ... 1&start=40

Apparently the performances in the Main Stage (where NIN are playing) are only available for those with Belgique ADSL connection, so I don't think we'll be able to see it.
This is bullshit, I have been trying to figure out how to see the main stage for hours, but apparently we are going to miss Trent. :evil:
Bricklayer
Oops, that last post was me, but I was so fuming mad I forgot to sign in and I forgot my username. Oh well.
Master Traveler
Hi,
I'm an audio engineer working here at one of the national radio station, and the station called "Pure FM", while streaming the festival live, just said they weren't allowed by the production (i.e. Trent Reznor or his organisation, I suppose) to stream the nin concert. So I'm not sure the Werchter site or any other radio/television station can air the concert...

We heard the beginning however : The Frail and a few seconds of The Wretched.

Just enough to get me drooling here in the studio, just enough to get me frustrated also... :evil:

Glad I went to see them in Paris...
Grand Pontiff
Ok, so my not-boyfriend has called me from the concert just as it ended... it seems the setlist was similar to the one in Barcelona (not in order but in songs), playing The Frail/The Wretched, Burn, and finishing with Head like a Hole.

But he has told me that during "Something I can Never Have" Trent has started to cry... when I asked for more specifics he told me that it was nothing subtle, that he was kinda sobbing and everything.

Poor baby. In Barcelona we were singing along and he was even smiling, I don't know why he was so affected today...

It seems most people were (again) waiting for Rammstein and there weren't many NIN fans around -my friend told me he was the only one singing along in his area.

And that's all I can say.

Poor Trent (although I'm still angry at him for the way he ended the show in Barcelona and for not allowing this concert to be streamed live).


Edit: you can see now pictures in http://www.rockwerchter.be/rw2005/site_en.htm

Go to Report > Day 3.

Good pictures (no Trent crying, though).
Here is the setlist

* The Frail/ The Wretched
* Wish
* March of the pigs
* The line begins to blur
* Something I can never have
* The hand that feeds
* With teeth
* Terrible lie
* Burn
* Closer
* Gave up
* Hurt
* Head like a hole

I was in Paris the 22 and left the concert hall disapointed (too hot, crappy sound, etc). This show was awsome !!! NIN at his best !!!!

Aaron is just a crazy man. He throwed his amp out of the stage an I think Jeordi also trhow his guitar on Jerome's drum..

Great Great Great Great show...

Thanks TR and his band for this evening !!!!!
Bricklayer
Is it true he was crying?
This show was absolutely a-w-e-s-o-m-e !!!
I was in Paris and Nijmegen before this one and I can tell you the band's growing stronger and stronger. Not that much NIN-fans around tonight but a very powerful act on stage! The absence of the pinion intro and starting with the frail instead ... pffffiiiwwww
speechless.
WOW FUCKING GREAT SHOW! thank you so much trent

the setlist was a little short but trent and the band were really crazy.
the crowd SUCKED!!!!!!!! too much rammstein fans

I was the only one singing with trent (in front of the right side of the stage)

during sicnh trent was crying a little (in the beginning)
Master Traveler
The show was amazing. And it caught my attention that NIN were the only band who didn't use the camera on the huge moving rig for the screens. Unlike the other bands, the images from the screens seemed way better shot, so it think it must've been the NINcrew itself taking over the camera's.

I don't think Trent cried, i think it was sweat in his eyes or breathing smoke? It was a bit weird though, before he began to sing the first line on "something...", he softly bumped the microphne to his head a couple of times.
Bricklayer
Ollie wrote:
I was in Paris the 22 and left the concert hall disapointed (too hot, crappy sound, etc). This show was awsome !!! NIN at his best !!!!
I never understand what people have about the sound at the zenith !? I saw one concert from the seated area once, and the sound was ok, nothing more nor less - but i saw several others since (including the 22/06) and i found the sound extremely rich and clear. Admittedly, i was pretty close to the stage everytime, but still..
It was the first NIN show for me. I was just in the front of the scene and I've got just two words: THANK YOU!
Master ad Vitam
The setlist is correct, 14 tracks in total.
The sound was excellent, the performance was unbelievable, but the crowd was SO lame!
It was just a big bunch of rammstein fans.
I think 98% of the people didnt even knew who Nine Inch Nails were.
In my area I was the only one singing along to the songs (all of them, in full force, my voice is gone for a few days :) ).
The concert was so great...
Trent really did start to sob a little during SICNH.
And I actually cried during Hurt...
It was my first NIN concert, and seeing Trent on stage, performing Hurt, just made something snap inside.
This really was one of the best moment of my life.
Thank you Trent & crew!
About the streaming, I have ripped the entire stream, 1 hour before the show, until 1 hour after, and there's nothing from NIN in there, only useless interviews.
So they really didnt stream anything. :(
Too bad, because the camerawork was really excellent.
I also saw:
* Therapy? (some songs were pretty good)
* Admiral Freebee (fuckin fantastic, best thing that came out of Belgium, ever)
* Audioslave (they ROCKED. they played some soundgarden songs and rage songs too, the crowd went wild. CHRIS CORNELL IS TEH ROCK GOD)
* Rammstein (these german beer kings do know how to put up a good show. I didnt enjoy the music that much, but the show was fantastic. fire, explosions, epic drama :))
Master Traveler
I was standing pretty close and I could see Trent getting *really* emotional during SICNH, I think he just has a better grip on 'stage theatrics' now and gets into that state of mind on purpose to make the live show epic... Or was this so unusual? He was sorta crying and at one point covered his face with his harms for a litle while... For a minute I thought "shit... is he totally fucked up again?" but after that song he was back in a bad ass rocking mood so it seems so I'm guessing it was part of the show.

Anyway, the show really blew my mind, never saw a band put on a show so skilfully and intensely, even when compared to AATCHB.


edit: Oh yeah and Audioslave was crazy too, didn't know they could put on such a classy show even though I'm a big fan of them. The crowd went so crazy, the mosh pit felt like it was the end of the world... So what do they start to do then? They start to play fucking RATM songs! Holy shit, people went insane, it was like... the apocalypse...
Yeah,indeed, lame-ass crowd it was, I only saw a girl singing along left in front of the stage and myself..
The rest were Rammstein fans indeed who didn't knew NIN possibly! :?
Great show, but a way to short setlist!
Master Traveler
Great show !
Someone took pictures ???
I was there too and I can say I was extremely sad for him.
The crowd was absolutely misunderstanding everything.
During that moment I was really ashamed being belgian and, worse, having bought werchter ticket! :evil:

But the show was terribly AWESOME and camerawork unbelievable.
it was my first NIN concert and I will never forget it :D
Bricklayer
Ive never really seen a crowd so un-enthusiatic. Anyone know what song the pic was taken during? Crowd looks dead.
Sorry for the "me too" post, but I basically agree with everyone in this thread. The show was great, the crowd was lame. I was singing along and jumping around, but almost all the people around me were just standing still, seemingly uninterested.

Then again, I've always had the impression that NIN aren't very big or popular in Belgium anyway (which is a damn shame).
Bricklayer
PoisonDan wrote:Sorry for the "me too" post, but I basically agree with everyone in this thread. The show was great, the crowd was lame. I was singing along and jumping around, but almost all the people around me were just standing still, seemingly uninterested.
Seems to it has been the same shitty situation as seen at the german festivals: The kiddos were waiting for Rrrrammstein :? ... hopefully NIN will get the headlining postition when they'll play european festivals next time.

... and hopefully they'll come back at all
Master Traveler
http://www.rockwerchter.be/rw2005/site_en.htm
Watch RockWerchter site..
Day 3
..Interviews...
Then Watch The Pennywise one...
At the end we can listen to a very Beautiful statement abount OUR guitar player Aaron North
Troll
GreenKorn81 wrote:http://www.rockwerchter.be/rw2005/site_en.htm
Watch RockWerchter site..
Day 3
..Interviews...
Then Watch The Pennywise one...
At the end we can listen to a very Beautiful statement abount OUR guitar player Aaron North
LOL excellent, i cant say i'm surprised !
Did someone recorded the show ??

About the crowd: too many kids being there just "to be there".

From where I was, it was a NIN "clan" (+/- 10 persons).
I was 10 meters from the desk (mix) just behind the second security ramp.
Hm...so what's the statement? My comp doesn't seem to wanna download this.
Master Traveler
go to Nine inch nails part of this forum :)
oh okay thanks. :) Haha. I'm not surprised b/c buddyhead does rip on everyone but they rip on eachother too, they constantly would poke fun at one another and make fun of their friends bands too. People take that shit way too seriously when buddyhead is just fuckin' around and only being honest but half the time I think they are only being half serious. It's a funny site with clever little one liners and I think it's supposed to be tongue in cheek. The gossip part of it anyway. It's so funny that 2 lil' dudes can piss so many people off. I'm mean people really wanted to have these guys for dinner. Haha. I really don't think Aaron cares too much otherwise he wouldve stopped his shit talking when he's gotten sued and threatened before...I think I've heard of him even being hit before. That dude from pennywise really should brush it off they aren't the only band they rip on...like I said they even rip on themselves.
Well funny to see that everyone is complaining about the crowd... IT IS A FESTIVAL! I saw the show in Vienna which was good because people were all fans. But I was amazed how the Werchter performance of the band was better. Trent and especially Jordie were much more moving on the stage...(because they had to convince)
Of course its a festival and you can't expect people to be too enthusiastic but it was more than ok were I was a lot of people were singing : more than I would have expected.

The thing is that such a performance impressed a lot of people including people that didn't know much about it...exactly what a festival is all about!!And i'm glad about it!

ps: about the "crying thing" : most people didn't understand what was happening when Trent was putting his arms around himself like he was cold and start to "cry" (the word is too strong) For most people it was a bit funny because it seemed a bit too much of pretending to be such in a mood. When he even started to shortly cough some people even laughed..

For me his attitude was similar to the Vienna show but he was just putting himself even more into the song. But like I said it surely hasn't been well perceived by some(most?) people that tought it was fake..
Grand Pontiff
That seems to be because Belgium sucks (aside from the NIN fans). They were all waiting to "rock out" to Rammstein.
The set was truly amazing. It was a pitty that so little people in Belgium know NIN, but from what I have heard so far (radio, online, people I know) the responses where unanimous. I'm sure that NIN will have a lot of new fans here from now on. I hope the tour passes through europe again soon.
Despite what some people suggest here, NIN has a big following in Belgium. Recall they sold out Vooruit show on Spiral Tour and were put high on the bill both times they appeared at the country's largest festival in Werchter.
True, 60% of the huge crowd on Saturday in Werchter came for headliners Rammstein, I've been told.
I didn't attend this show either (just like previously in Werchter, because (and yeah maybe that just makes me a lousy fan) I don't feel like spending a fortune on seeing Trent & Co. only for an hour between 10 000 boyscouts.
Or in the Netherlands they played with Lenny Kravitz and REM. No NIN fan deserves to be put through so much misery.
Having said that, the people I know who went to Werchter thought it was a brilliant gig with a nice moshpit in the front gathering many diehards fans.
The rest of the audience may have seemed a tiny apathetic, but that was more because they were impressed with the intensity of the show. Press praised it unanimously.
I saw NIN in Tilburg (2001??) and had brilliant time. Just wished they would skip the festivals in the future and play some more indoor venues.
Knight of the Royal Axe
not sure and anyone would be interested in this, but this just popped up on ebay.....


Actual live guitar used by NIN at Rock Werchter 02/07
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW
Bricklayer
k-sound wrote:I saw the posts about pics on the rockwerchter site so I did a quick capture in case anyone is interested.
Thanks for these! I could watch them, but not save them.

I seem to have been lucky enough to have attended the Werchter show among the only NIN-fans, because my throat hurt from singing along, and my ears were ringing from those around me who were doing the same thing. Most of them were more familiar with the old stuff (so they started cheering too early during the quiet bit in With Teeth), but there certainly was no lack of enthusiasm. Quite a few well worn 'Downward Spiral' t-shirts and such.

IMHO those were drops of sweat during SICNH, but it sure sounded passionate enough, even if he didn't cry. And I couldn't help thinking Trent was reclaiming 'Hurt'. I sure would have loved getting more from 'With Teeth', but otherwise an awesome concert.

I left during Rammstein *g*
i´m a portuguese fan of nin.
when i knew about the european tour, i hope they came to Portugal but unfortunatly they didn't...
so i made plans to go Barcelona to see them.
SOLD OUT.
Paris? SOLD OUT. London? SOLD OUT.
Fucking great.
Werchter Festival, Belgium? Tickets available.
I went in Belgium.

2005, July 2.
Finally i can see NIN live. It was "my" show. But they played after Rammstein, the band everyone were waiting for. I try to get in front of the stage but there was to much people saving is place for Rammstein.
The show was so good!!!!! to short too... only one hour for such a great band???

i hope next time they come to Portugal to see them in a closed place like Coliseu, with their own fans and with more than 60 minutes to play...

Portugal is waiting NIN!!!
...they played before Rammstein...

sorry for my english, is not my native language...
Bricklayer
PoisonDan wrote:Sorry for the "me too" post, but I basically agree with everyone in this thread. The show was great, the crowd was lame. I was singing along and jumping around, but almost all the people around me were just standing still, seemingly uninterested.

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I feel the same. Here is the part when Trent "cry", enjoy. (the avi file is Divx6)
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=332C ... 4KMGNT8BXR
I went to the main stage early enough to be in front of the stage to watch NIN but it didn't help a bit. Everyone was there waiting for Rammstein.
No offence, Rammstein put on a great show, I was impressed, mostly because I love fire. But I wanted to see NIN better.
The worst part is that those people who pushed so bad to get in front didn't really care, or it seems.

I was in the front on the left, right under the screen, probably one of the few singing along and calling my friend who couldn't go to the show because it was sold out. Long brown hair, black t-shirt, jeans (If anyone saw me, HI!)

I looked around and I didn't see anyone singing with the band...I thought: "mmmhh, at least clap your hands, yell or pretend to know the songs!".
BUT, after reading all of these posts, I found out that lot of people felt that way.
And frankly, I'm a little happy to know that, because I thought that maybe it was the 'belgian way' or something.

So, to all the NIN fans who sang along...thank you!
And to NIN, who won't read this, thanks for the show. It was great!! Exactly what I was expecting from you.
Bye...

Mon

ps: I'll get my pics tomorrow, I'll scan them and send them to anyone who's interested. However, I don't know if they're ok, blurry, or crappy. We'll find out.
my email is pipobimbo26@hotmail.com
Bricklayer
OpiumKid wrote:The last three videos that shoot at RW'05
Woooot! Ah... good memories... thanks again for sharing. I wish I had something to return the favour, but I don't...
Bricklayer
OpiumKid wrote:The last three videos that shoot at RW'05:
great, thx
OpiumKid wrote:The last three videos that shoot at RW'05
Thanks so much, it´s very kind of you sharing!!

I´m afraid I have no stuff from the show, sorry :(

For me, as for most people, the show was awesome but the crowd was awful, around me only teenagers who didn´t know a single song.
Bricklayer
Some other pictures from a 5 minutes TV broadcast

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Master Traveler
Bodhisattva, what songs did they show and have you recorded them?
Bricklayer
Thank you Bodhisattva for this torrent link! I subscribed to the site and I'm torrenting as I type :D

It should be finished in a couple of hours *crosses fingers*

Also thanks for the caps you put up!
WOW :)
it was really a great show, wasn't it :-) and i was singing along with Trent too,it doesn't matter that the crowd was so-o-o detached.... they just couldn't wait for Rammstein.
I was hoping that someone will take pictures, because mine are so auwfull :( i took over 600 pictures, actually, during the whole festival and only few are good .... when i get some free net space i will post them, promise
@ M.R. hey :) i was on the left side also!(hm.. well it depends what is right and left but i was on the left side of Trent) right under the screen :) girl, red t-shirt of RW, short dark hair... :) i was on the shoulders of my friend, but the security was very strict and they let me stay higher only for one song - something i can never nave... anyway...
thanks for the pictures and videos...i will try to give you mine soon ... peace
The crowd did suck - it was my tenth Werchter and they were never this tame before (except during heatwaves).
It was my first ever encounter with NIN, 'Hurt' and 'The Perfect Drug' aside, but I'm completely convinced now. I'm really glad we decided to stay for NIN.
Master Traveler
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Bricklayer
I really wanna see those videos! I enoyed the show so much! Can someone please upload them again??!! Please???
@ halfempty/full - it's workin', but you have to save the files on your pc ... stupid me, I also thought it's allowed to "hotlink" images on this site.... sorry for this.. :(

@Jordi Spilner - i have downloaded the last video, but it's quite big, so i don't know when i will be able to upload it and where. but I will try. maybe Bodhisattva will be more helpfull on this :) and i want to say big 10x to him for this video - it's great!
Bricklayer
@energy
How many songs did they show?
Bricklayer
@ Jordi Spilner - i have only the last video that was posted here , and it's 120 MB avi file, the songs there are -march_of_the_pigs, the_frail_the_wretched and wish. I also missed the videos that was previously posted, and i'm looking for that "trent cryin" video ...
@OpiumKid can you upload again some of your stuff... :oops:
Bricklayer
Cool! So they broadcasted almost the whole show!
Please Opiumkid! Or can someone else upload it again??
Guest123 wrote:Yeah,indeed, lame-ass crowd it was, I only saw a girl singing along left in front of the stage and myself..
The rest were Rammstein fans indeed who didn't knew NIN possibly! :?
Great show, but a way to short setlist!
Well my friend and me sang/screamed/jumped/waved along a lot!! I even managed to jump around during The Line Begins To Blur while pinned against the fence. It didn't go unnoticed, I was quite a pain in the ass that day methinks whahaha! We scared quite a few belgian people around us actually. I guess they didn't expect 2 harmless looking chicks to cause that much ruckus!!
Even Jeordie noticed. Did anyone notice him wave his hand(s) in the air a couple of times while standing on the far left edge of the stage?? He did that whenever he was standing near us and we got tired from waving our hands. True story.. really..
He shouldn't empty his nose onstage!! Gross!!!!!
Did anyone see that?! He did it after he held his guitar above his head for a while, then he held it in front of his face and blew. Yuk.. oh well.

I could hardly see Trent from where I was standing but it was obvious that he was sobbing during sicnh.
Oh and I was also standing on the left side.
Jeordie's mic was close to some huge amps, left of that was a little bit of stage (where Rammstein had already set up some of their pyrotechniques) where hed stand on the edge. I was standing in front of that sidebit of the stage. Black girl, causing ruckus along with blonde girl.
Bricklayer
I was there too, I managed to get past all the rammstein fans to get up front while jumping and folowing some other NIN fans I just talked too then.
I was at first row central with lots of NIN fans. I think everyone was singing along but lots of them weren't belgians.
The atmosphere was a bit lame with the damn rammstein fans.
I really hope NIN will tour Europe again in winter in some clubs or arenas
Master Traveler
Jordi Spilner wrote:Cool! So they broadcasted almost the whole show!
Please Opiumkid! Or can someone else upload it again??
The videos that Opiumkid posted were videos he made himself, with his phone or something like that. The screencaps Bodhisattva posted were from the broadcast on French tv. It's about 5 minutes long and it has bits of March of the Pigs, The Frail, The Wretched and Wish. But it's a huge file, so I can't post it, but there is a torrent at Dimeadozen (see a link earlier in this thread).
energy wrote:@ halfempty/full - it's workin', but you have to save the files on your pc ... stupid me, I also thought it's allowed to "hotlink" images on this site.... sorry for this..
It's working now. :cool:
Bricklayer
ok ok i know im a bit late with this :P

anyway, i was there at Werchter too and i just have to say it was f*cking AMAZING! It was the 1st time in 8 years i went back to the festival but i dont regret going. I too went mainly for Rammstein because i love their show but NIN wasnt a complete stranger to me though. I must say they completely blew me away. They just totally ROCK :O
Audioslave as well For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen!! I found a spot at the left side of the stage under the big screen so i could see a lot of the show without standing in the jumping crowd (had to be careful as there was a possibility of me being pregnant and thank god i did cuz i found out 2 days later that i am actually pregnant :P) Anyway, i enjoyed it very much and havent stopped listening to NIN since. I can also honestly say that the baby has a great taste of music already as it starts to move every time i listen to NIN, but then again it might not be so surprising as it's the only music i frequently listen to now hehe.