ETS Tour Journal

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Pinion (Intro)
Love Is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer ('The Only Time' Breakdown)
Burn
Gave Up

Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time

Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Hurt
Wish
Getting Smaller
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

I was sooooo happy that they didn't play Starfuckers...I think I would have stabbed to death the person directly in front of me in protest.

Excellent show...Really happy the played "Suck!" QOTSA was excellent; they got a good response from the crowd. One thing that was quite humorous: The mass lighters, during Hurt...Ah, some cliches never get old...

ur mom wrote:Pinion (Intro)
Love Is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer ('The Only Time' Breakdown)
Burn
Gave Up

Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time

Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Hurt
Wish
Getting Smaller
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

I was sooooo happy that they didn't play Starfuckers...I think I would have stabbed to death the person directly in front of me in protest.

thats not right, wish was right after beside you in time. otherwise it looks correct though..

the show was amazing we had so much fun. saw lots of fights, saw girls throw their panties on stage at jeordie, and lots of other fun things. here are the pictures that i took.. i will soon post the movies that i took as well. http://heatherhate.com/gallery/ninsac

oh yeah, and i got to do the little meet with trent, sooo awesome, he signed my ticket and had a nice little chat. I TOUCHED TRENT REZNOR.

Jesus Christ. That was the most amazing show I've ever seen. Complete with Suck, Sin, Burn, and no Starfuckers.

I got to meet Trent before the show. I shook his hand. He signed my ticket. I love Trent.

Autolox set:
Plantlife
Robots in the Garden
Subzero Fun
Turnstile Blues
Blanket
Capital kind of Strain

I think the order's right. I would have liked to see them make the set like four songs longer, and I was disappointed that they didn't play Here Comes Everybody or Sugarless. But I loved the vox/bass player. The feedback and electronic shit is amazing.

I don't know the QOTSA set because I don't really like QOTSA, but I will say that they were suprisingly good. They really rock hard up there. And then at one point there was a fight and Josh was like giving a play by play and then let loose with the most horrific string of obsceneties I've ever heard at the guy who started the fight. It was incredible.

NIN setlist:
Pinion (Intro)
Love Is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer ('The Only Time' Breakdown)
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Wish
Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Hurt
Wish
Getting Smaller
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

That was the most amazing thing I've ever been witness to. Trent was going fucking insane and throwing shit all over the place. Aaron was already destroying the drum set and the speakers by the second song. Every single song was perfect. There was not a single thing I would change about this setlist. It was amazing.

Trent: "bummer. Just spent the day discussing touring up through next summer, then play our asses off to the least responsive audience I can ever remember playing to. I know I'm bitching but it's a shitty feeling.
As I'm walking to the bus to leave Sacramento as soon as I can, I learn Jerome is back in the hospital. I have no idea what this means..."

Huh?!?!? The audience was generally fine. I've been to several NIN shows and this was just as enthusiastic...EXCEPT the images displayed during Eraser, Right Where It Belongs, and Beside You In Time seemed to have a negative effect on the audience, and momentum from that point on seemed a little lost.

Also, for me personally, although I like Jeordie and the other 2 newbies, I miss seeing Danny, Charlie and Robin. Andy seems to be posing and copying Robin's movements and style, alot. I couldn't help thinking that during the show. I know NIN is Trent, but, I can't help remembering and thinking about the other guys. Sorry, I miss 'em.

Does anyone else agree?

i personally think the spiral was well worth every penny, me and friend showed up to the gig a hour beofre the show and was almost right in the middle of the baracade just a little to the right on the baracade( ahour b4 the show..WOW, amazing show simply breathtaking, trent reallly put some effort into making it somthing else to see.. WOW not just eraser but ever song had cool things to look at it, i recorded alot of it on my sony cyber shot gig space memory on highest resolution.. Love is not enouph is hands down the best song on witth teeth!!!

shootmotherfucker wrote:NIN setlist:
Pinion (Intro)
Love Is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer ('The Only Time' Breakdown)
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Wish
Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Hurt
Wish
Getting Smaller
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

They played Wish twice? I didn't even notice...

Here's the real setlist:

Pinion
Love is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins to Blur
March of the Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer (The Only Time)
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where it Belongs
Beside You in Time
Wish
Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Getting Smaller
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Hella.

<3 Bryan

thanks for posting the Autolux set!

Every performance was top notch. I made it up front, by Aaron, danced my ass off to every band. I was the only one doing it, and probably pissed off all the people around me.

smitty wrote:Trent: "bummer. Just spent the day discussing touring up through next summer, then play our asses off to the least responsive audience I can ever remember playing to. I know I'm bitching but it's a shitty feeling.
As I'm walking to the bus to leave Sacramento as soon as I can, I learn Jerome is back in the hospital. I have no idea what this means..."

Huh?!?!? The audience was generally fine. I've been to several NIN shows and this was just as enthusiastic...EXCEPT the images displayed during Eraser, Right Where It Belongs, and Beside You In Time seemed to have a negative effect on the audience, and momentum from that point on seemed a little lost.

Wow, 'least responsive'? Now, I wouldn't go that far... The crowd was INSANE tonight, and yeah, there were a few fuckers that got pissy during the mid-set cool-down (which, thank god, is there for a reason) but other than that I thought it was an awesome show.

The pits were insane. I think the whole night me and my friend were constantly on the rim of one mosh pit or another, and at one point were stuck between TWO of them on either side. Only fell once, got punched a few times, threw some punches. It was good. It was the best concert I've ever been to. I think the only thing that kinda ticked me off a bit was the fact that no one was throwing water on the crowd. It was fuckin' hot down there and I only remember Trent throwing one water bottle on us. *pouts*

Anyway. NIN was so on it tonight. I'm also loving that they played 'Burn'. I know everyone else on the planet hates that song but whatever. It kicks ass.

Ugh, it's time for bed. I only just got home at 4am. Hopefully I'll be able to do it all over again on Friday in Oakland. *crosses fingers for Jerome*

myles wrote:Obviously, the crowd wasn't insane if Trent called you idiots 'the worst crowd in recent memory'. Heh that's BAD. He won't be going back there for a while.

All of the "idiots" were tossed by security. Everyone around me was way into the show and were making noise to show it. BUT the crowd was pretty thin for ARCO Arena standards....I'd pay a lot of money to see NIN, but I'm guessing people were put off by the $50 price tag.

Rob was walking around the floor after the show and walked past. I asked, "Are you Rob?" He says. "Maybe." I say, "I dig your work," to which he replies "Thanks, do you want to say something to the camera?" That's when I geeked out and started raving about how good the show was....

krackablam wrote:oh yeah, and i got to do the little meet with trent, sooo awesome, he signed my ticket and had a nice little chat. I TOUCHED TRENT REZNOR.

So how exactly did this Trent-touching incident come about? Are they doing sound check meet and greets on this leg of the tour too, or was it some chance meeting? Was the meet/greet by lottery off the Spiral fanclub thing?

smitty wrote:Trent: "bummer. Just spent the day discussing touring up through next summer, then play our asses off to the least responsive audience I can ever remember playing to. I know I'm bitching but it's a shitty feeling.
As I'm walking to the bus to leave Sacramento as soon as I can, I learn Jerome is back in the hospital. I have no idea what this means..."

Huh?!?!? The audience was generally fine. I've been to several NIN shows and this was just as enthusiastic...EXCEPT the images displayed during Eraser, Right Where It Belongs, and Beside You In Time seemed to have a negative effect on the audience, and momentum from that point on seemed a little lost.

Also, for me personally, although I like Jeordie and the other 2 newbies, I miss seeing Danny, Charlie and Robin. Andy seems to be posing and copying Robin's movements and style, alot. I couldn't help thinking that during the show. I know NIN is Trent, but, I can't help remembering and thinking about the other guys. Sorry, I miss 'em.

Does anyone else agree?

Yeah, I miss the other guys too, you're not alone. But maybe we just need to give the new guys time to grow on us.

Also, you must have been standing on the floor during the show if you thought the crowd was into it. I was in the lower level seats stage right and there were way too many people sitting down the whole time. I was astonished and couldn't help looking around me periodically to double-check...but, yes, alot of people sitting. Trent noticed it too. That's why he said something like, "well, I guess the PA (system) really is on..." once the crowd really cheered at one point. He also kept looking to his right at the seated audience and kinda got a huffy-puffy look going there. About 4 songs later he ended the show, racing off stage down the stairs, tearing off his shirt (gasp!), never to be seen again. And, man, did the audience do the same! I've never seen an audience clear out so quickly.

No, there was some bad mojo in the air that night in the stands (again, people in the pit seemed to get it and enjoyed themselves) and maybe Jerome picked up some of it by shows end? (Jerome, my thoughts and prayers are with ya. Let's hope you're doing better by now and will make the Oakland show that I'm supposed to catch too)

TeaBagger wrote:"then play our asses off to the least responsive audience I can ever remember playing to."

ok, who wasn't singing along to hurt?

I think Hurt was the only song people sang to, unfortunately. OK, maybe HLAH too.

Whatever, the show was great, I had a good time.

I just hope Jerome gets better and the Oakland and Hollywood shows are still on.



QOTSA Rocks,

It was cool of Josh to stop the show to get that asshole kicked out.

Best quote of the night.

Josh: "That guys seen more dick ends then weekends"

bubbles wrote:I think Hurt was the only song people sang to, unfortunately. OK, maybe HLAH too.

Where I was on the floor (pretty much spent the whole night center stage, about 5 feet from the barracade) people sang along to all the old NIN songs, but it seemed like not as many people knew the words to anything off With Teeth. Which kind of sucked. I knew all the words to every song so I was screaming my ass off the whole time. LOL

TeaBagger wrote:"then play our asses off to the least responsive audience I can ever remember playing to."

ok, who wasn't singing along to hurt?

that fat bitch next to me in front of the pit who felt the need to chit chat at every down point in the concert. Oh and no-one cares that you are hot, and that you want water on the back of your fucking chubby ass neck, you fucking loud ass cunt.

I have been to many shows, and while i cannot speak for the sitting audience, i know that i had many pits that were ALOT worse, in smaller venues. I wasnt complaining though, it was a nice break.

And a big FUCK YOU to that fucking crowd surfer who decided it would be a good idea to try and climb onstage during Queens, thanks to you, and your tripping all the security gaurds into the barricade, i have two holes in my hand. I dont know how you did not get thrown out of the goddamn show, but i swear to god if i ever see you again, i am going to sock you in the face. you fucking dick sucker

I have to agree with Trent on this one. But, I think some of you are misreading his meaning. I saw a lot of people excitied & loud at the show, but they were not even watching the show. It was like fucking social hour in my section. The two bitches dancing near me were yapping on their phone half the time and were stumbling around the rest.

This then made everyone else distracted and it was hard to ignore them. The video sequences were great, but the wasted assholes would not shut up. I also got the impression that a lot of people got these tickets last minute. Craigslist had hundreds of tickets for half off face value.

I fear they will never come back to these parts again, but Ill always be a fan.

A few thoughts:

I was at the show and the crowd on the floor was VERY responsive. It's my understanding the floor was, or close to being sold out, and for the most part everyone danced, screamed, and clapped the whole night.

I looked in the seated area a couple times and most people were seated, REGARDLESS TRENT - DON'T GO AXL ROSE ON US BECAUSE HALF THE AUDIENCE IS CHOOSING TO SIT. We who were on the floor had to endure many drunken, violent fights going on around us to be there to see you. For you to go practically comatose the last couple songs because you're pissed the place hasn't fallen into total anarchy is bullshit. You have an awesome visual show...are we not supposed to watch it at some point?

I don't appreciate paying $100+ for 2 tix, in addition to Spiral, to then be told I suck.

Your performance on HLAH SUCKED! What should have been a climax to an otherwise great night, turned sour. For a grown. supposedly matured artist, you couldn't have acted more like an egomaniacal, petulant child. Way to alienate your hardcore fans!

Up to a point, the show was amazing, but I'm left with a bad memory and bad taste in my mouth...it could've been so different.

I think everyone's taking this comment a tad too personally. You, and only you, know whether or not you were into the show or not. What I can say is that I had a great time, and I know that I was there 100% for NIN (if not the other bands), but I refuse to speak for everyone else -- I can't and won't qualify the statement that "the crowd was/wasn't into the show." It isn't like TR is pointing directly at any one person and saying "You're the reason I made a snarky comment about the PA system actually working and after HLAH I stormed off stage..." or whatever.

I have to agree that it gets very annoying (and, of course, takes away from the show) when there are loads of obnoxious drunkards surrounding you, but it's a sad fact of shows no matter the size. I think this just goes to show how lucky we were (those of us that got to go at any rate) to see them in the smaller venues.

On another topic, I have some photos taken from the show if anyone wants them. You can e-mail me if you're interested. They're okay, not great (I'll be completely honest here).

I thought it was awesome. It was my first show...EVER. And Im glad it was. It was my last chance to even go to a decent show, since I dont think they would want to tour anywhere near Alaska...

But yeah, there were plenty of assholes behind us, pushing up to the rail. Trent threw us a water bottle, and some asshole just threw it back. no wonder he was a little irked by the end of the show.

Over all, it was fucking incredible. Im going to try to get to Oakland tomorrow.....

I could really care less what Trent thought of the crowd. I know I did my part and am not responsible for the stupid ones.. We still got a full set just like everyone else.

Trent's commentary does smack of petulance and immaturity. Beyond the issue of whether or not his words were impolite, there is the issue of who is he to dictate in what manner a person enjoys a show? Those of us who paid $50 for the privledge are the only ones who should be critiquing the quality of the experience. I'm sorry to be bitchy about this, but regardless of Mr. Reznor's concert by concert fun-level he still walks away with a paycheck.

Last night's show was number 11 for me, and I've been just about everywhere in a venue that you can be--front row pit, second row, surfing, seating, upper levels, etc. Last night I was in the front row of the lower level seats, and I'll be honest when I say I didn't feel like making a total ass out of myself by blocking the people sitting behind me in standing up. I'm a stickler for courtesy. So I danced in my seat and enjoyed the hell out of that.

My one complaint would be that, speaking as an 11-timer, I thought the setlist could have been WAY better. I've heard about songs like 'Deep' and the newly penned 'Not So Pretty Now' making the rounds, but last night I heard neither. What instead? 'Reptile.' Again. Thanks for that, I've only heard that at every show I've ever been too. I mean, I like that song, but come on... there's tons of great material that never gets played.

The songs played, and the attitude--which was obvious right from the get go (I mean, sorry not to get excited about being called a pig for the ninemillionth time and all, but)--were in no way especially inspirational. I can see how some people weren't totally feeling it, and for that Mr. Reznor should look to himself.

I had to turn my head around when people were surfing, bitching, and kicking each others ass. So who knows what I could have missed :p Luckily I was up at the rails. I cant imagine what it would be like in the huge crowd. And sitting in the seats...that must not be fun at all!

I don't know what show some of you were at because pretty much the entire crowd in Sac SUCKED! I was on the floor at the back watching the pit and the entire crowd was standing STOCK STILL. It was like they were watching paint dry or something. I felt ashamed for the crowd and sorry for the band because they were on fire and full of energy. But by the end of the show the lack of response just sapped all the energy out of them.

This is the first show I've been to where NO ONE had their hands up for the chorus of Head Like a Hole. WTF? No one knew the lyrics to any of the songs except for Hurt. And this is the only show where I could still hear Trent singing Hurt for the whole song. It was pathetic. Besides my husband and I, I counted 5 other people who had their hands up almost the whole time. That's a joke! And half of the seats were still siting through the whole concert.

And there were at least 5 fights that night. I've never seen so many fights in one show. Just one more reason why I will never move to Sacramento and why I will definitely never see another show in that town.

The show itself was awesome! Only is amazing live and I love the light show during it. Eraser is amazing live, such a powerful song. One of the best NIN shows I've seen as far as lighting, songs, and stage presence...but the crowd completely killed it by the end of the night.

First off I’d like to give a big fuck you to the 16 year old ass eaters that were in section 101 row G & H….You fags can eat shit and die with your little boy on boy ass slapping game you were playing with each other…you should have done something nice and sent your fag hag’s you had with you to help the guy who posted earlier who had the fat ass next to him wanting water poured on her back boobs...

Second….I thought the show was awesome but...What the fuck is Trent’s deal?? Hey Trent guess what, You wanna know why maybe people seemed unresponsive? Maybe it’s because you play the same songs every tour since 1994…Come on man…You got a WHOLE Library of songs, why do you continue to play the same ones the same way? Sure you added 6 new ones from With Teeth and that was great but come on…..I’m sure YOU even get a little tired of playing Terrible Lie over and over and over again.

Or maybe people “seemed” uninterested because of reason 2 or 3 which are... Reason 2, people bought seat tickets to possibly sit in a seat and enjoy the show? I know I sure as shit didn’t come to the show to dance on the floor. If that was the case I would of bought a FLOOR ticket. I came to SEE the live show. Or how bout reason 3, Most people had to get over the shock of having to pay $50 per ticket which for some is no big deal….Then on top of the $50 everyone had to pay $10 to park and judging by a few of the people there I’m sure they bought a ticket to your show instead of using the money to pay the rent so they could take a shower that morning. So you could be at least a little greatful, because most of us in the stands had to suffer from their smell and you didn't you lucky bastard!!

Hey Trent…Just cause people don’t stand in the isle’s and dance at your shows doesn’t mean they weren’t interested. Maybe. If the crowd was as un-responsive as you claim then I would think people would have been leaving the show during your set. What response were you looking for? Someone to come on stage and suck your dick? Guess what I can help you with that, next time you come to Sacramento I’ll find the queers that were sitting in Row 101 Row G & H, and send them up to suck your dick. Maybe then you’ll cheer up a bit. If that won’t put a smile on your face then I don’t know what will but I know I’ll be paying another $50 for the next time you come to town cause You put on a damn good show for people to SEE.

I just wanted to pipe up again. I was just talking to a friend who opted out of GA for reserved seating, and she said that when she attempted to stand up, she got told to sit back down. So, if Trent wants people on their feet the whole time, perhaps he should figure out exactly what the arena security is going to do about it. I honestly think he can't bitch if he doesn't realize that it may not be a matter of people sitting because they're disinterested, but instead because they were told that it was unacceptable.

I wonder why we didn't get "Deep" and "Not So Pretty Now." It would have been great to actually hear these things live. Well, here's hoping that the songs pop up at the show in Chicago.

sorry to say but "Down In It" is a pretty much retired song. for the reason it was not on "And All That Could Have Been" Trent has said that the song just doesn't have the same feelings for him it used to. He's most likely not gonna play it soon.

as for all the remarks. i was there and until i got my glasses knocked off and stepped on i was in one of the pits. after witch i stepped to the back of the floor to enjoy all the pretty colors. the show was awesome. but it did have a weird vibe. i can't pin point the source of that vibe. yes there were way more empty seats then i expected. and yes there were a whole hand full of bitches on the phone. but that's not the say a generalization that the crowd was not in it. In Germany many years back they tossed hot dogs at nin when he opened for G&R. I think that was a more negative response. Hell it could have been most people there wanted to see Queens... and just chose to stick around for NIN. Happened to Ozzy when Metallica was his opening act way back in the day.

After the insanity of the ~1000-capacity Davis show (earlier this year), I did end up a little disappointed with the Arco show. I think the smaller venue really filtered out the non-fans, along with the lack of a (real) opening act. I was expecting to get crushed (on the floor, about 10 feet from the barricade), but after the first few songs everybody calmed down. I don't think his comments are 100% accurate, but it definitely had a calmer vibe, along with alot of non-fans. Show was great, though.

Trent: "On another note, some of you seem to have taken offense to comments I've made here about the audience in Sacramento. This area of the site is not for press releases or sanitized versions of anything. That was how I felt, and that's that. Not every show is a great experience. A lot of our performance draws from the energy and reaction of the crowd. It felt to me (and everyone else in the band) like we were punching a brick wall for 90 minutes with nothing coming back, and that was frustrating. It happens sometimes. It IS frustrating. We're not pretending or going through the motions when we're onstage and these factors affect us and the show."

First off, let me say I love NIN. I think the band, and obviously Trent, are amazingly talented people.

Having said that, I think the band can't expect, nor should they, the same reaction they had in the early-mid 90's, nor do I think Trent really wants that. Trent, you've grown and I think your music has as well. WT, in my opinion, is the most melodic, mellow, pop-like work you've ever done. You simply don't, internally, seem to have the same rage, hatred and anger you had years ago...and good for you! Do you really want to continue feeling, in your 40's, the same way you felt in your 20's and 30's? Do you really want your audience to be 15 year olds going berserk to Closer?

Also, are we to be impressed with hired hands, Aaron/Al, smashing equipment in almost exact facsimile to the respective members that did it years ago? (Robin/Danny/Charlie). Robin and Danny, I believe, did it then because they shared your same anger, pain, rage and youthful angst. Aaron and Al do it, it seems, because they're following a template. It seems contrived and phony. You mention the rest of the band felt, about the show last night, the same as you. I don't mean to be rude, but is there ever an instance where they don't agree with you, or go along with what you feel/say? You're the CEO and they're your employees. I heavily doubt they'd be completely honest with you. And I doubt even more they'd be critical of your behavior, onstage or off.

I think you're, artistically, stuck in some type of limbo, at least from a live performance point of view. The Trent Reznor of The Downward Spiral Tour is not the same TR today. You look the best you've ever looked and I think you're the healthiest you've ever been in your life. The audience of those shows were maniacal and out of control because they, in many ways, reflected and identified with you. But now you've changed, for the better I believe, and your fans, at least some like me who've been with you for 15+ years, have generally as well. Do you really expect people approaching, or over 40 to act like we did a decade ago??? You can't go back, and neither can we.

I've been to several of your shows this year, including last nights, and yes, perhaps Sac was the most tepid, but other venues have been similar and I've read on a few occasions about audience malaise at other shows as well. It seems to be a little of an epidemic.

Speaking for myself, I'll admit that I wasn't screaming and jumping up and down throughout the entire show. I watched, listened, and generally appreciated what was on stage, and felt grateful that you've made it this far.

I love the new disc, and for the most part I really liked last night's show. I'm sorry you felt you weren't getting the response you deserve, or require to do a good show.

I can tell you, even though I was a little mellow last night, I couldn't be more appreciative of your art and the expression of it...and I know I'm not alone. Please don't punish me/us for it!

Thank you for years of brilliant artistic expression and here's to continued success. Also, best wishes to Jerome for a speedy recovery!!!!

ok....this was my first NIN concert, and just being able to see them was amazing for me....

now, on to the topic on everyones mind...the show DID have a very strange vibe to it...i dont know what it was, but the crowd DID seem timid...i was on the floor, at the very front, right in front of aaron, and it was amazing to me to be that close to a band that i absolutly love...but i guess it was just the caliber of PEOPLE at the show...there were quite a few hillbillies there who were ruining it for the rest of us true fans...people that were just being assholes... and i know that there are always those assholes at these shows, but there were a larger number of them than usual at this one...i have seen lots of bands live, always on the floor and always up front, and this show just didnt have the energy of the other ones i have been to....and thats a shame, because other than the shitty energy of the show, and the last few songs where the band just kind of gave up, this was a GREAT show..NIN is and will remain my fav. band

on a side note, its really sad to see these people get all butthurt over trents comments...if u enjoyed the show, then u enjoyed the show...its not like he was talking directly to any one person...if you couldnt feel the strange vibe like the rest of us, then there is something wrong with you....i am not from Sac, and im glad of that fact, because the people here take shots like those of trent too damn seriously...i was in front, and a lot of us were enjoying the show, not pushing and shoving too much, just in our own little space, then these 2 hillbilly FUCKS came in and started annoying EVERYONE, pushing and shoving to get to the front, raising their elbows and hitting people and shit, THEN the WHORE got caught with her PANTS DOWN....with her BF right behind her...she got questioned by the bouncers on why her pants were down and she FLIPPED OUT on them, so they got thrown out....then everyone was fine again....these people just amaze me....why are they at a NIN concert? they surely cant appreciate the incredible layering of songs like closer and the wretched, since the one guy had 2 fucking teeth....and the fat whore was so trashy the she got caught with her pants down..it just amazes me the caliber of people at this show....bottom line: Sacramento SUCKS

I agree with alot of the reasons for the timid show audience and would add one more...

We (girlfriend and I) were tired. That morning, I was driving to school before 8am, and @ 2pm flew home to get an early start to Sac 'cus of the early start time. Sat in rush hour traffic for 2 hours (coming from San Jose) on the way to the Arena.

I thought the show was one of the best.

But I'm 39. Its hard to keep that pace up when you're old as dirt.

BTW - Autolux were cool and Cliches of The Stoneage were boring.

See you in Oak on the 19th...

The NIN show was amazing. One of the best i've seen. Trent and the band was really on key and amazing. The crowd...LAME! I was the ONLY one in my section reacting to the music. One of the worst crowds ever. I've been going to concerts for 15 years now and last night's was one of the worst. For trent and the band, they were just amazing.

NIN owned
Jeordie GREAT!
Aaron EXCITING!
Jerome BEST WISHES TO YOU!
Trent THE MAN

the crowd...Ass holes....Trent was right it was a horrible crowd they sucked ass

IdeaRevolutions wrote:I just wanted to pipe up again. I was just talking to a friend who opted out of GA for reserved seating, and she said that when she attempted to stand up, she got told to sit back down. So, if Trent wants people on their feet the whole time, perhaps he should figure out exactly what the arena security is going to do about it. I honestly think he can't bitch if he doesn't realize that it may not be a matter of people sitting because they're disinterested, but instead because they were told that it was unacceptable.

I wonder why we didn't get "Deep" and "Not So Pretty Now." It would have been great to actually hear these things live. Well, here's hoping that the songs pop up at the show in Chicago.

I'm going to have to agree with this. I feel bad now, hearing about how frustruated the band was with the audience. I was sitting in front, stage right. I stood up briefly, for several songs, but most of the time I sat, and danced in my seat. Three reasons why : 1) yes - security was TOTALLY telling people who were dancing in aisles that they needed to go back to their seats. 2) I am a tiny person - and it does suck when people stand in front of me - even standing, I still have a hard time seeing around them, so I always try to err on the side of being nice and sitting. 3) There was some ridiculously drunk and annoying girl RIGHT behind me SCREAMING in my ear the WHOLE show "I LOVE YOU TREEEEEENNNNNTTTTT!!!" Over and over and over, in this horrible screachy voice. I felt that standing up would identify me with this ridiculous girl way too much - the songs I did stand up for, I moved way over in my row just so I didn't have to stand next to her.

That said, I enjoyed the show very much - even in my seat, I was bouncing around and dancing the WHOLE time, singing along (quietly) with all the songs. I feel bad now that the whole night was such a disappointment. Now I know next time to just not worry about blocking people's views or being that loud obnoxious person next to you who screams out every line of every song in your ear.

But yeah, quite alot of people in Sacto do suck - I can't wait to have enough money to move back to Santa Cruz.

Just wanted to say I enjoyed the show, it was a birthday present and I had a BLAST - thanks for trying your best guys - Every song was right on, and regardless of people who say that Aaron's antics are just copying older band members, I was getting a kick of them. I was laughing the whole time that I wasn't singing along.

Thanks guys, and best wishes to Jerome.

Would've been a little more responsive if I hadn't paid $50 (tix) + $60 (super special spiral entrance w/ no soundcheck) to see the same freaking songs I've seen live 5 times already this year, T-Rez! Be creative and I'll show you some love. Shove it.

best. show. ever. haha the first row of the pit was fucking responsive.

I think, for a lot of people, Queens of the Stone Age upstaged Trent. A number of people left before NIN's set, and the crowd seemed a lot more into Queens' performance.

As for Trent being all butt-hurt over us not creating total anarchy, he can shove it. I enjoyed the show.

Also, people cleared out because the house lights came on right after they left. Meaning no encore.

i know i wasnt there, but no one has said anything about getting smaller.... how was it live?(it's one of my favorites on with teeth)

I went to the Sac show... I felt like something was lacking all night. BUT I felt it was more of the band then the crowd. During the show, I felt that everything was staged- like it was all an act. Where I was, the crowd was in to the concert. I also felt that 30+ mins between QOTSA and NIN was really long. For me the waiting around sucked and was energy draining.

It's too bad Trent is upset about the show, but I thought it was great! It was my 5th time to see them since 94 and I ranked it 3rd best out of those. The Reno show in March was in the top three concerts I have ever been to besides Pink Floyd and Tool. We drove from Reno to Sac and it was worth the drive. The security there did SUCK ASS! They even wasted energy to pop balloons everyone was hitting around. Fucking dipshits! Balloons are kind of gay, but who the fuck cares? I couldn't tell Trent was upset because he always seems that way and it looks like he will always be. There were a lot of teenie boppers there that would have probably wished they were at a Brittney Spears or Justin Timberlake show. I wish NIN would stick to the small venues because that's the best way to see them. A lot more crowd participation!

i was present at the show. a freak occurence because no way could i have afforded to go(a friend gave me his ticket at the last minute)....actually, it was my first "real show" i've ever been to. i've always dug nin but have never been a superfan or followed them closely. i had so much fun and was just sooo pleased by the whole experience i will just never forget it.
favorite moment of the show: when hurt built up into the rest of the band playing...i will be replaying this in my head for years:)
i really want to know who is playing in the band now...who is on tour. i was really impressed.
as for the enthusiasm....i thought there was a pretty good vibe. i saw a few too many drunks and punks but thats kind of par. i for one dont even like it when people sing along so thats no kind of measure. in any case, i loved it. everyone freaked out when the image of g.w. and his lady came on, but i didn't think it was a negative response to the band in any way. i loved the video montages that were going on. i thought i was going to cry/wet myself....but i was sitting down for like the last 1/4 of the show cuz by then i was just fuckin tired.

Well, im finally back in Los Angeles after spending an awful time in Sacramento. I feel sorry for all of you people who live there. (I feel even more sadness for those who live in Fresno because that town just sucks)

Anyways, got to the venue around 2ish and stood outside the doors with some other fans. I have one fucking question that i couldnt get answered while in line, what is the deal with all of the flies? Seriously, there were like a million or something floatin' around outside the venue....and those suckers were HUGE too.

Around 4:30pm we were told that we some of us were going to get a special treat and that it would only be the first 15 people in the spiral line who were going to get this treat. We were taken back to the loading docks and were told that Trent was going to come out and sign some stuff for us. Around 5:15 or so he finAlessandro came out and i managed to snap a few shots with my cell phone. I got my two vinyls signed and he was somewhat friendly. Chatted with some fans and then made his way back into venue and we were led back to the front of the spiral line.

The show was OK, i thought the setlist was kinda flat and reverted back to the spring. It was nice to hear getting smaller as it sounded a lot better this time around then the spring. Overall it was a decent show, but nothing special. I too was kinda pissed off at the lack of responce from the crowd. Oh well, i hope LA kicks ass tomorrow night.

Enjoy some pictures i took.........

the kids all lined up to meet TR


my with teeth and fragile vinyls signed


TR during the signing


TR again during the signing


Arena floor before the show

So I went to the show and the first thing I told my roomates is how the crowd sucked. It's hard to get crazy when everybody else is standing around. To be honest, it's more just the way it is in Sacramento. I come from the L.A. area where people arn't afraid to go off, and they aren't afraid to make somebody mad if that's a result of them just trying to have a good time. I have now lived here for like 6 years and one thing I have come to notice is that people in Sacramento are timid, don't really even want to stand out and actually like it that way. That was the most confusing thing for me to realize. You guys WANT mediocracy! You feel safe with it or something.

The people that think the crowd was responsive are people who don't really know what responsive is. On top of that, The mosh pits here are a joke. (I have actually been to some "Mosh Pits" here in Sac. where people were SKIPPING!)

I read this whole thread and some people are attacking Trent for the way the show was. Keep this in mind - Trent has done a lot of shows. If he thinks the crowd here was unresponsive, it probably was. He is compairing this show to others ON THE SAME TOUR. It's not 'cause the fans are older, or the songs that were played, or the drunkards, or the cost, or whatever else you can try to think of to deny the fact that Sac is just a conservative mediocer town, that doesn't even really WANT to go off. Sacramentans enjoy just sitting down, observing from a distance, like it's a movie or something. Participate. Come on!

I mostly go for the show, but the crowd is all part of it. The crowd generates the excitement, the energy. There was none of that. I tried, but I was that person you thought was a dumbass because I was singing with the song or something. Sacramentans should grow a pair of balls and not be afraid to get excited about something. Don't be so afraid to make someone mad if you stand up in front of someone. It happens. Of course, you have to want to get excited. Don't be afraid to stand out. That's the biggest thing I have noticed. People who do get excited here get labled as a weirdo and sort of get shunned.

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Get the hell out of here if you don't like it.
Move back to LA.
We like medeocrity, and tameness.
We don't want to get excited because someone might not approve.
Your Spelling Sucks.
Your Grammer sucks.

(Please only respond if you have something interesting to say)

NIN's set list was INSANE!! I can't believe they played reptile and suck!!! that kicked ass...I was a little bummed out about no deep or starfuckers but besides that it was a great show. Jerome seemed like he was playing just fine....he looked like he was rockin out. Trent was fucking going crazy!!!! during terrible lie and closer he was at his best. I can't wait to see em again. what was with trent calling sacramento the worst audience? sure there wasn't a ton of poeple but we kicked some ass! I was kinda pissed off about that. ohwell, I still love NIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha hes signing my ticket in that picture!!

I though this NIN show was simply flawless, especially the visual nuances and general intensity...but these anti-SAC comments are most unfortunate...for what it is worth Trent, I drove from the real NorCAL.

TAC wrote:I though this NIN show was simply flawless, especially the visual nuances and general intensity...but these anti-SAC comments are most unfortunate...for what it is worth Trent, I drove from the real NorCAL.

yeah i dont even live in sac i drove almost 2 hours from chico. all this debate is a little surprising.maybe we should all get off our computers and go to some more shows haha.

did any one else notice trent on the floor during autolux's set? he stood in front of my friend and i for about 5-10 minutes and then walked back stage. i wasn't sure if it was him but after seeing those meet and greet pictures i am sure it was him, same outfit. very interesting.

I was at the sacramento show on the floor, toward the front. I can say that far too many people at this show showed their asses. People were acting lie rednec farmers who have never been to a concert in their lives. I mean most people now that sac is a cowtown, but behaving lie idiots isnt going to mae the band want to play here again. Contrary to a lot of what people have written, the floor crowd WAS VERY live. But myself and my friends that went to the show got sic of drunen and high idiots running into us out of nowhere and bumping us. i mean when nin AND QOTSA have nothing positive to say about your city, what does that tell you. These fucers had no respect for the band, the music, or the people there that just wanted to see a good show. some people were doing the mosh thing in their own area which was cool. but idiots were bumping into girls and stuff. and girls were getting pissed, and pushing the hell out of those idiots. i now that i was. and so were my friends. of course its going to be a wild environment. its a roc concert. and i didnt allow the experience to detur my enjoyment of the show, which by the way was amaing. both qotsa and nin were great. but some of the rednec idiots in the crowd shouldve stayed in roseville or their trailer parcs. the crowd was mixed age. but some older people were even getting bumped into, and they were getting super pissed. as a matter of fact, the people fighting were the GREATEST FUCING IDIOTS of the lot. i will post again about this show.. i just wanted to get this off my chest.

Well, I loved the Sacramento show! If Trent was pissed off , in my opinion it made him better! I just want to send my good thoughts and prayers to his drummer! He was a trooper to get through the show like he did.

Just some dude wrote:So I went to the show and the first thing I told my roomates is how the crowd sucked. It's hard to get crazy when everybody else is standing around. To be honest, it's more just the way it is in Sacramento. I come from the L.A. area where people arn't afraid to go off, and they aren't afraid to make somebody mad if that's a result of them just trying to have a good time. I have now lived here for like 6 years and one thing I have come to notice is that people in Sacramento are timid, don't really even want to stand out and actually like it that way. That was the most confusing thing for me to realize. You guys WANT mediocracy! You feel safe with it or something.

The people that think the crowd was responsive are people who don't really know what responsive is. On top of that, The mosh pits here are a joke. (I have actually been to some "Mosh Pits" here in Sac. where people were SKIPPING!)

I read this whole thread and some people are attacking Trent for the way the show was. Keep this in mind - Trent has done a lot of shows. If he thinks the crowd here was unresponsive, it probably was. He is compairing this show to others ON THE SAME TOUR. It's not 'cause the fans are older, or the songs that were played, or the drunkards, or the cost, or whatever else you can try to think of to deny the fact that Sac is just a conservative mediocer town, that doesn't even really WANT to go off. Sacramentans enjoy just sitting down, observing from a distance, like it's a movie or something. Participate. Come on!

I mostly go for the show, but the crowd is all part of it. The crowd generates the excitement, the energy. There was none of that. I tried, but I was that person you thought was a dumbass because I was singing with the song or something. Sacramentans should grow a pair of balls and not be afraid to get excited about something. Don't be so afraid to make someone mad if you stand up in front of someone. It happens. Of course, you have to want to get excited. Don't be afraid to stand out. That's the biggest thing I have noticed. People who do get excited here get labled as a weirdo and sort of get shunned.

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Expected responses:

Get the hell out of here if you don't like it.
Move back to LA.
We like medeocrity, and tameness.
We don't want to get excited because someone might not approve.
Your Spelling Sucks.
Your Grammer sucks.

(Please only respond if you have something interesting to say)

I still stand by my opinion that the show could have been much better, and I still feel that artists generally get what they put in, and that--if the crowd is lackluster then they're probably not getting the energy from the artist that they need. My father works as a stagehand, and he noted the small crowd at the Sac Nails show, and also that Rock Med had their hands full that night (interesting juxtaposition, eh?). He also worked another Sac show in the same venue for another band, just after the Nails show, and he noted that the crowd was off the hook with energy, and the band (which shall remain nameless) likewise.

It's been my experience that Sacramento crowds are notoriously rowdy and fun. So it was either a band thing or a Nails fan thing, in my opinion. And for all those visitors to the city who are of the opinion that Sacramento is a horrible place to live, I have to say that your basing that statement on one Nine Inch Nails crowd is horribly shortsighted. I've lived all over the world, and I can safely say that Sacramento is actually a very nice place. It has a lot more going for it that can be deduced from watching a single, lackluster concert.

Finally, any one of you (who've happened to shush us Sacramentans for complaining about Reznor's commentary or stated that Sac sucks) would be outraged if I came to a show in your city and declared that your city sucked because of the crowd atmosphere or bad band performance there, and you'd probably be outraged if someone you respected, like Trent Reznor, made such a rude comment as well.

Looks like I'm a little late commenting, but oh well.

My first concert ever was the Davis show in March, and that show was fucking awesome. Set aside the band and music, one of the best parts was the energy the Davis audience threw out. Everyone seemed happy and appreciative to be there, and you could feel it. It was positive and exhilarating.

My second show was this one, and my god could you feel the difference in the audience. I swear there were people there that must have gotten some cheap tickets and found a "cool" place to hang out to get shit-faced and high for the night... regardless of who was on stage. People were sitting the whole time, which I didn't think was possible to do at a NIN concert. These two fucking chicks next to me (on the floor mind you) were chatting the whole time and the only time I heard them mention NIN was after 'Closer' to say "That song right there is the only reason I'm here tonight!" There were also people there that just seemed to want to get attention for being assholes. Why do people go to shows if they don't care about the music?? And one more thing, if you don't know the words to the song, people can tell when you try to sing it anyways! What the fuck is with you idiots?!

The energy I personally felt at the Davis show was not at the Sacramento show. It felt draining and depressing to be around those people who really just didn't seem to get it. There were some (probably the ones who've already remarked on here) that were great, but they were few it seemed.

As for the performance itself, I was completely in awe... I didn't get enough of it so I'm going to be going to the Oakland show (it's lucky for me it was postponed).

Okay, so I am looking for a GA ticket stub from that Sacramento show. They collected the tickets upon entry, and I forgot to pick one up after the show. I collect them, and am desperatley trying to get a hold of one. Please, can anyone help me out?

Ditto,, Id like any ticket stub at all,,, someone?

i loved the show but i say that since the concert in davis (march 25, 2005) there was much improvement. i liked this one (arco arena) because i can see alot of the stage because there was a lot of short people in front of me. i didnt like the amount of fights there was. my big sister loved it she lost her voice screaming. im soory that trent didnt like amount of audience reation, but i loved the show.

i wish i could have met trent and aaron. that would have been fuckin' awesome.

yeah, werent they scanning tickets this time..?

That ticket-taking bullshit was so fucking gay. It pissed me off royally, especially since they SCAN the damn things. WTF was I gonna do with my ticket stub after I'd gotten into the concert?

they scanned the spiral tickets...

Kitten wrote:That ticket-taking bullshit was so fucking gay. It pissed me off royally, especially since they SCAN the damn things. WTF was I gonna do with my ticket stub after I'd gotten into the concert?

Sneak people onto the floor,, thats the olny reason they kept them.

I agree NIN put on a good show, but let's admit it, arco seemed half full. nobody on either sides of second floor, empty patches of seats on first floor, and the main floor area was 3/4 full. people walking from the back all the way to the stage with little trouble. i seen a couple pits from time to time. either way, i don't care if i was the only one there, i paid $40 so trent get your a$$ up there and sing!!!! complain to your maid and butler, not the fans!!!!

Xizen wrote:
Sneak people onto the floor,, thats the olny reason they kept them.

Well that's just ridiculous. All GA's were given wrist bands when the ticket was scanned.

I know,, dosent make that much sense to me either,,, Im sure the floor wouldnt have been that hard to sneak onto anyway with the way things were set up.

to all of the people that say that the crowd was enthusiastic you're out of your minds. trent was right, and i have to say that was one the worst audiences i've ever seen at a NIN concert let alone any show. and people are actually saying that the pits were insane? i'm from what people call a hardcore town, and we have circle pits that make yours look like a picnic. and how can anyone say QOTSA out-played NIN? every one of their songs sounds the same after awhile, and the lead singer stops a song at every show and makes the same comments about somebody in the crowd, what a joke