2006/03/07 - Erie, PA [Erie Civic Center]
I asked one of the old guys that kept coming outside for a smoke by the Spiral entrance about the camera situation and he said digital was not a problem. I'm pretty confident I got some great shots, but I haven't gone through them yet. Once I do, I'll throw them in a zip file and put em on megaupload or yousendit, unless someone has a better place to host them.jupiterstar wrote:Can't wait to see some pics, cameras were technically "not allowed" so I didn't risk it.
i think by "you know what you are" you mean "the line begins to blur". other than that, setlist looks perfect.jupiterstar wrote:Best. show. ever.
Mr. Self Destruct
Sin
Terrible Lie
You know What You Are
March of the Pigs
Something I Can Never Have
Closer
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Piggy
Wish
Only
Every Day Is Exactly the Same
Reptile
Dead Souls
Suck
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole
I was at the barricade in front of Aaron...actually between Trent and Aaron. I didn't touch any band members...hehe...but I was along for the ride and had a blast! Can't wait to see some pics, cameras were technically "not allowed" so I didn't risk it.
From where I sat, I heard one person booing. It was probably you. Most of the crowd seemed to really appreciate Saul's performance. I know I did.bryan27 wrote:...one of the best shows I have ever seen in my life.
Although...
I would have given a limb for a carton of eggs to throw at the HORRIBLE rapper/poet that was the opening act! It seemed from the overwhelming screams of "shut up" and "booo" that the crowd around me agreed.
I'd give a limb for a carton of eggs to throw at you you ignorant dumb fuck... i've always appreciated the apparent intelligence and open mindedness of nin fans... I'd never heard of Saul Williams until I caught him as the opening act last year and I thought he was awesome. is it that hard to open your mind to what other people have to say? if it is go to a limp bizkit shows instead...bryan27 wrote:...one of the best shows I have ever seen in my life.
Although...
I would have given a limb for a carton of eggs to throw at the HORRIBLE rapper/poet that was the opening act! It seemed from the overwhelming screams of "shut up" and "booo" that the crowd around me agreed.
That's right, my man, I think it sucks when you boo out somebody who's giving his best just to entertain you, even if you don't like that kinda music, it's really mean to boo. How would you feel if you had the opportunity to open for NIN and everybody thinks you're a loser?ItsJustDave wrote:From where I sat, I heard one person booing. It was probably you. Most of the crowd seemed to really appreciate Saul's performance. I know I did.bryan27 wrote:...one of the best shows I have ever seen in my life.
Although...
I would have given a limb for a carton of eggs to throw at the HORRIBLE rapper/poet that was the opening act! It seemed from the overwhelming screams of "shut up" and "booo" that the crowd around me agreed.
Who were you? My friend (Lucas) and I were singing into the mic, we actually held it. We were right on the barrier in front of Trent. Anyways, you had to have been right beside us.calmbomb03 wrote:what an amazing show! Trent was full of energy. Saul Williams wasnt bad. During Piggy, trent went down toward the stage and sang with a few ppl from the crowd. Let me tell u, i was one of them singing into the mike. I also touched Trent before he handed the like over to the crowd. Special thanks to the guys who got me out of the pit, i almost passed out from being pinned to some big guy for about 45 minutes. Crowdsurfing was great too, even though it lasted for about 3 seconds. I stayed about three rows back from the stage where Trent was singing. It was the best NIN show i have ever seen.
On the way home to Mercer County, a tour bus and 2 limos were driving toward the Mercer PA exit doing about 85 M.P.H. I wonder who that could have been? TR maybe?
My body hurts and it hurts to move, but i am in one piece. Mr. Self Destruct was awesome.
(I touched Trent Reznor)
-The fact that you met these critics in the bathroom indicates a high likelihood that they were drinking.septictank wrote:I missed the opener but according to the critics i met in the bathroom He sucked. I dont know I didnt see him. I think there definitely was a substantial faction that didnt enjoy him.
--and here is this guy, and his friends...and they didn't even know who was playing? Boy, Trent wasn't off when he said he came from the "shitty" side of Pennsylvania.yourGODisDEAD wrote:This was my first NIN show and it was fucking great. My friend came up from Peter's Township (Pittsburgh area) and picked me up from Edinboro to go. We waited in line and were decently up in the pit. Dead center about 20 feet away. During 'Closer' and 'Eraser', a fan had to be taken back. It was that much of a rush.
Probably my favorite song performed tonite was RWIB. The video was very poignant and beautiful.
My complaints for this evening are...
- The douchebag in front of me who complained after Suck for me to shut up. I mean it is a concert. A NIN concert. and what the fuck was his problem? i dunno.
- The people screaming during BYIT pissed me off. That song is a soft and elegant piece of art and you had to ruin it. I mean it would have been better without the douchebaggers. Same thing for 'Hurt'. MERCER! I was about to yell 'shut the fuck up'. yeah.
So I had one fucking great time. Hopefully when I go back to Pittsburgh for the Summer (May) NIN tours and makes a stop in the (better) arena of the west portion of the state. The ECC was just real small and that pissed me off. Mellon Arena is better...
)Just check back in a few weeks. There should def. be something up.septictank wrote:Is there anywhere to get a copy of the concert on cd or bootlegged on the internet? I'm a relatively new NIN fan and would love to have the show on my computer.
Spiral folks got into the venue a little (roughly 15 minutes) early, but NO M&G and NO soundcheck.nancy j. wrote:Looked like about 60 people from Spiral for meet-n-great. Erie police at this point but wonder if they all got in.
Excellent point, Nancy J. If the security guards aren't wearing their NIN badges, they're probably fake security guards. Don't let them stop you unless you see a NIN badge!nancy j. wrote:Sorry, it's me again, but an interesting point. When I saw Trent getting off the coach, the "security" guard, another guy and Trent turned around and looked at me, as I was standing across the street. I thought that was weird and wondered what baboon said to them. That I was a madwoman? That I had to be escorted from the property? When I was by myself at the back of Erie Civic Center and the jerk approached me I was pleasant. I explained it was my first concert in eons, I was obviously well-behaved, obviously alone, and I even offered him to search my purse and jacket, just to show I was a normal gal. What galled me was Idiot really enjoyed a wee bit of power, or what he thought was power. He said, "I don't know you and you could be a threat to me." I should have asked him on the spot to see his identification, as I never saw his NIN badge at any time, or anything remotely smelling of security. No badge, no nothing. And he looked dirty, too. It was my only chance to see Trent Reznor up close and that was all I wanted. I wondered if he spooked Trent in thinking I was a crazy fan. That moment really killed me.
Next time someone is throwing around the word nigger and slaves how about jamming your thumb in his eye?aliceinnowhereland wrote:Fantastic show. Only complaint I really have was not with the band but with the crowd itself. People seemed pretty. . .desperate?. . .in the section of the floor that I was at. This woman who was standing behind me literally pissed herself, and then proceeded to describe the experience to everyone: i.e., "It's so warm and wet." Isch. And then this OTHER woman behind me keep making racist comments during the entirety of Saul's set. Such things as, "I wish people could still have slaves, it'd be so much better." and "Who does this stupid nigger think he is? And where does he think he's at, Alabama?" I was about 3-4 rows back from the stage but I moved myself back a few rows just so I didn't have to here her running commentary during NIN's set, too. It just really frustrated me to have people have such a negative attitude about the entire show. I've been going to shows at the ECC for years, and the crowd has always had such a positive vibe, with everyone being truly friendly and happy to be sharing a music experience with other like-minded individuals. The majority of those who were in my section of the crowd (I was on the left side facing the stage) seemed violatile and downright rude, which I have NEVER experienced in the six years I've been seeing shows there. Most people were like me, just trying to watch the show, and I met some truly great, earnest fans, but the dim bulbs in the crowd seemed to put a damper on it for everyone.
As far as NIN themselves. . .This was my first NIN show, and I was totally blown away by how true to record they sounded. Most bands you see have a different style they like to whip out for live shows, but NIN was very true to what they have recorded down. I danced the entire two hours. Well, minus the time during the screened part of the show. I mostly just watched, caught my breath, and then danced for the rest of the show. Disappointed I didn't hear certain Fragile tracks, but with a show like the one that they put on, who could complain?
Others have commented on this topic that they have seen other NIN shows and that this one seemed particularly well-done, and were questioning why the entire band seemed excited about this show more so than others that they've put on. ECC, unless you go to Cleveland or Pittsburgh, is the closest venue the tri-state area has to Mercer/Allegany County. And hell, have you ever *been* to Mercer? {shudders} There's like, nothing there! So basically it was a hometown show.
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People like you are still around in the 21st Century? WHAT A FUCKING DISAPPOINTMENT... I hope one day to see you on fire so i can have the satisfaction of not pissing on you to put it out...no longer a fan wrote:i always thought of nine inch nails / trent as a racist since i heard head like a hole. that's actually part of why i liked nin.
...black as your soul. i'd rather die than give you control. bow down before the one you serve. you're going to get what you deserve....
so i was amazed to see a black guy rapping at the beginning.
what a disappointment. another great mind wasted on the societal blend that only ends in mediocrity at best.
Interested in selling your CDs?no longer a fan wrote:i always thought of nine inch nails / trent as a racist since i heard head like a hole. that's actually part of why i liked nin.
...black as your soul. i'd rather die than give you control. bow down before the one you serve. you're going to get what you deserve....
so i was amazed to see a black guy rapping at the beginning.
what a disappointment. another great mind wasted on the societal blend that only ends in mediocrity at best.
dead soulsbleachedaneurysm wrote:does anyone know what cover nin did ?
nancy j. wrote:First concert in 30 years. Will be 46 in May. Became NIN fan in Jan. 2006. Only knew 3 other songs, never seen NIN videos. Glean web for all news and photos. Went to PA from Cleveland for 3/7/06 concert. In evening sat at Avalon Hotel bar for a few with die hard fans til 7:30. No rush to arrive for preconcert. Only wished to see Reznor. Lots of "old" folks like me! Spiral folks already lining up at 1:00 outside. Was only person present in back of Erie Civic Center in afternoon. Five red semis for equipment, three Prevost coaches present. Two coaches closest to sidewalk held technical group. Met the cook from New Zealand and Adam, NIN's runner for everything and met driver for the band. Was told Reznor and band would arrive around 4:30 and was right on time, with Reznor coming in 15 minutes later. Watched one coach pull up and saw quite closely three band members exit coach and enter building. Stood quietly ALONE, quite near. Baboon security guard bullied me into leaving area. Said I might be a threat. He was a total asshole. Went across street and watched Reznor's coach pull up with Reznor standing in front in white Tshirt. First thing exiting coach was small guy with greyhound. Dog spackled in color, quite beautiful. Watched Trent's driver rubbing her head as she waited to leave bus. Dog takes long whiz on teeny piece of grass. Reznor exits coach with bulky, black down coat, faded blue jeans and bag. Was across street but close enough. Reznor keeping hair short, looked recently buzzed again. Reznor's coach closest to building. Was told by cook Reznor is fussy with food, wants home cooking. Comment no surprise; Grandmother probably quite a cook back home. Very, very nice people, this crew. Down to earth and quite friendly to me. (Except baboon security guard who I noticed never had a badge which must be showing at all times). After Reznor goes in civic center, band already tuning up; could hear from outside. Various people secure area for-- I was told--lockdown. Only about 3,000 fans. Arena could hold about 6,000. EXCELLENT OUTSTANDING concert. Tickets read 7:30 but NIN appeared at 8:30. Reznor packed with high energy. Absolute pleasure to watch. Can hear every word he sings. Threw a total of 7 water bottles to audience. First three songs we were frozen in place watching him. Shock of seeing in the flesh. He threw tamborine in, too. Knocked microphone stand over a few times as well. Visuals were unbelievable and moving. Most audience stood during concert. Most fans well into adulthood, not lots of young kids. Extremely courteous. During end of Head Like A Hole, raced to back of building. Around 20 freezing butts off. Two limos parked waiting for Reznor, kin and friends to head to Mercer for family/down time. Grandfather not present. Was told Dad not present because he wasn't feeling well. We thought it may have been Trent's nephew and bud sticking heads out of limo sunroof as it pulled away. Baboon security guard didn't order us all off the sidewalk -- only me earlier when I was ONLY ONE THERE. I thought that was really, really shitty. Had no camera, no desired autograph if chance came. Was not screaming, shrieking fan. Just a quiet observer. Like I said, it's been 30 years. Just wanted to see the man in the flesh, that's all. Watched all semis pull away. We figured Trent went in limo though lighting was bad -- would have been easy to miss him. I doubted he'd make appearance to fans being bitterly cold and coming off illness. Just hoped for another glimpse. Technical coach pulling away watching "Meet the Frockers" and we laughed. Too bad about Erie, a fading city. During concert Trent said something like: "All of the depression I've suffered, the angst, anger and melancholy I went through...well, it was from living in Pennsylvania for 18 years." It was funny because he was serious til punchline. Applause to the crew because they're like clockwork. Reznor is a locomotive barrelling down the track...it's all business and he's serious. The overdose, addictions, death of his Grandmother, hurricane, and getting double-crossed by Malm...time to wake up and smell the shit. He means musical business and I believe the best is yet to come. Looked like about 60 people from Spiral for meet-n-great. Erie police at this point but wonder if they all got in. Thanks for listening.
Rest easy knowing you won't be missed.no longer a fan wrote:i always thought of nine inch nails / trent as a racist since i heard head like a hole. that's actually part of why i liked nin.
...black as your soul. i'd rather die than give you control. bow down before the one you serve. you're going to get what you deserve....
so i was amazed to see a black guy rapping at the beginning.
what a disappointment. another great mind wasted on the societal blend that only ends in mediocrity at best.
nancy j. wrote: Like the lady stated earlier, Erie citizens are down to earth and friendly.
I agree with everything you say.....only thing is that if you were talking about my post, I am not a lady....you may have thought that because I said i was wearing bracelets? Yes, i had two leather bracelets on, but not a lady...lol.
The security personnel who work the ECC are always well-marked with either the yellow t-shirts that say "Security" or a white polo shirt and black dress slacks, with the shirt having "ECC" done up on the left shoulder. For most bands their personal security wears name tags around their neck. I would say to not let some shambly dressed person push you around and try to force you to leave, but in this case perhaps it was best for your safety. There are a lot of strange people who follow bands around, ya know, the stalkery type, not the fan type. And it this guy was a stalker type, and he thought that, as you said in an earlier post with him in it, "You were a threat to him" i.e., a threat to his possiblity of getting to Trent and the band--he would have done anything to keep you away. With people like that it's just not worth it to get into a confrontation. Unless you're 2 ft. taller than then them, a blackbelt in karate, and absolutely positive that he doesn't have any sort of weapon on his person. Then, by all means, go right ahead.nancy j. wrote:Begging your pardon for another post, but this is sticks in my craw. If you read my bit of what I witnessed at the NIN concert in Erie, I wish to relay something eating my shorts. It's about that character. Listen up. As mentioned, he wore no NIN tag. He did not have a mustard color security shirt with a clear number on the left breast, back and sleeves. He had on a knit blue cap, dirty dungarees and a sloppy sweater. He just looked unkept, out of place and he was a loner. I never saw him speaking with real security. Never heard him called by name. He never produced a walkie-talkie nor a cell phone. Every, single person I saw had a NIN tag, showing they had the RIGHT to be there. And nearly everyone had communication. When Trent's coach pulled up, this guy was johnnie-on-the-spot and at the door of the coach before Trent stepped off. He boarded while Trent was on but he went no further with Trent's huge driver seated. From my standpoint it's like he was dying to walk through. From observation, no one questioned his "authority". That is foolish, dangerous, and I think NIN better bone up on just who is out and about. Reznor is a magnate and produces those paychecks from hard labor. In his position everyone better have visual ID. After the concert the security guards had no idea who this guy was -- because I pointed him out and they just shrugged. They assumed he was somebody by the way he moved around the equipment, semis and coaches in the lot. But he never came and stood guard over our small group after the concert like the real security men. It's a gut feeling but I can't shake it. Even the driver assumed he was part of the civic center or something, because he let this guy board. To the driver's credit, the man went no further. Demand identification, NIN. Putting a million things in place for a concert and the constant communication between NIN, it's easy to forget and become distracted. So don't let it be easy.
Yeah, the last thing anyone with the band would want is for some totally delusional psychotic individual to gain access. Good thinkin', Nancy J.nancy j. wrote:Begging your pardon for another post, but this is sticks in my craw. If you read my bit of what I witnessed at the NIN concert in Erie, I wish to relay something eating my shorts. It's about that character. Listen up. As mentioned, he wore no NIN tag. He did not have a mustard color security shirt with a clear number on the left breast, back and sleeves. He had on a knit blue cap, dirty dungarees and a sloppy sweater. He just looked unkept, out of place and he was a loner. I never saw him speaking with real security. Never heard him called by name. He never produced a walkie-talkie nor a cell phone. Every, single person I saw had a NIN tag, showing they had the RIGHT to be there. And nearly everyone had communication. When Trent's coach pulled up, this guy was johnnie-on-the-spot and at the door of the coach before Trent stepped off. He boarded while Trent was on but he went no further with Trent's huge driver seated. From my standpoint it's like he was dying to walk through. From observation, no one questioned his "authority". That is foolish, dangerous, and I think NIN better bone up on just who is out and about. Reznor is a magnate and produces those paychecks from hard labor. In his position everyone better have visual ID. After the concert the security guards had no idea who this guy was -- because I pointed him out and they just shrugged. They assumed he was somebody by the way he moved around the equipment, semis and coaches in the lot. But he never came and stood guard over our small group after the concert like the real security men. It's a gut feeling but I can't shake it. Even the driver assumed he was part of the civic center or something, because he let this guy board. To the driver's credit, the man went no further. Demand identification, NIN. Putting a million things in place for a concert and the constant communication between NIN, it's easy to forget and become distracted. So don't let it be easy.