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2007/08/16 - Salzburg, AUT [Frequency Festival]

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2007/08/16 - Salzburg, AUT [Frequency Festival]
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Grand Pontiff
I wasn't there but my sister was and this is what she had to say (if I heard everything correctly, she called right after it was over):

- awful, awful crowd of drunken 17 year-olds in the first rows wanting to see Die Ärzte
- unhappy Trent saying stuff like "it sucks for us too, you know"
- they played for about 1 hour and 20 minutes, left angrily
- *edited due to miscommunication*

She also said the performance was very good, just the bad atmosphere killed it.


That is all I know.
Trent wrote at his page, that it was the worst show with the worst crowd. I'm so disapointed, that they picked them before the ärzte.

I'm an austrian fan, but I went to hungary to see nin, because I knew it end up in a mess, at this festival.

I'm sorry for the band, because the 4 shows before were great.
Master Traveler
Weird place,too many stupid people..... how didn't care about NIN !!!
Worst crowd? Yes ! F**ck Frequency Festival !!!
Worst show? Mmmm, don't think so...they rocked with Survivalism, March, No,you don't and they played "Something I can never have" and a clip of "La mer" before "The Frail/The Wretched"..also performed "Suck","Dead Souls" and "Burn" !!! NOT played "Me, I'm Not" and "TGD" !!!


http://nineinchnailsnews.blogspot.com/
Master Traveler
I knew why I said I don't go to the festival.. but I spontaneously changed my mind

that was really bad. I felt so angry. I wanted to kill all the ärzte fans. I mean I like die ärzte but I would never act like the people did. there were too many drunken children.

everybody knew that would happen, but who could have guessed it get's that bad... trent was right by singing .. "you get what you fucking deserve" before he left the stage.

I found it quite funny, they had all the equipment up all day, the "curtain" and stuff... but they did not use it. but the promotors had to keep up with it all day during all shows of all bands, so I found it quite funny, like at least a little revenge that they had so much work and nin did not use it at all.

I was so angry I even left the festival after the shows and decided to skip the last day ... I'm just glad I see them again in munich soon, I wouldn't have wanted that show (although the performance itself was great) to be the last nin show of this summer for me...

edit: I will upload my pics in the next hour and post them here as soon as possible! - unfortunately all my pics turned out to be really bad (just like the evening itself was ... ) but still I picked out three of them... I got better ones of bratislava/sziget though...
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and btw, we "queued" for 3 hours to get into the wavebreaker, together with a bunch of other nin fans, but they indeed didn't let anyone in. fuckers. I couldn't even move for like an hour because it was so cramped. it was disgusting. I hate that festival so much I can't believe it.
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Grand Pontiff
nin were booked between two german bands, and sadly, the german band "die ärzte" played after them.. they were headliner and propably the most anticipated act there. 8 out of 10 guys in front of the stage were waiting for die ärzte. and most of them, got in the wavebreaker at around 2pm and waited there until die ärzte finally came on stage and plaed thier catchy, shitt punk pop rock music.

so the first 7 rows of people in front of the stage were all stupid kids, none of them war taller than 1.80m... well, i thought before the festival, taht trent might have a pretty big problem with those retards.. and i turned out to be right.

setlist in incorrect order, propably songs missing:
hyperpower
the beginning
sin
march of the pigs
something i can never have
closer
burn
survivalism
gave up
- and then, things started to go TERRIBLY WRONG.
la mer
the frail
the wretched
the good soldier
wish
dead souls
no, you don't
suck
the hand that feeds
head lika a hole
- trent and the band leaving angry.

to get to the point:
- the videowall was not used in the entire concert. maybe broken? maybe a punishment? what meant for us... no eraser, no great destroyer, no me i'm not
- not playing hurt because of fucking retarded kiddos screaming "wir wollen die ärzte sehen"... yes, you morons, we all knew that you fucked up beings wanted to see your shitty heroes.
- after sin (i think) trent pulled his earplugs out, turned to the right, and shouted like a lunatic at someone, i guess a crew member.. twice.
- aaron throwing an amp on some camera guy
- jeordie being nice, giving out water
- josh was out of my sight.. so was Alessandro most of the time.
- rain was propably a mood killer too

i'd like to know why trent didn't use the videowall, i was so hoping for that.. and for the pretty nin logo after the show.

i was standing pretty much in front of trent, but.. about 7 rows of lame ärzte fans in front of me... do you know how bad these fucks are? the do NOT jump during head like a hole, and shout along.
i went to the fucking festival, paid 189€ to get some fucking "vip" ticket, wanted to see tool in my fucking vip tent, and then wanted to experience trent and the reznors on the rail with my fucking vip bracelet, and wel, wanted to see the videowall...

and all i got was a decent performance of nin, and thousand retarded ärztefans waiting for thier shitty band, blocking everything.

sorry trent, you should play the novarock festival insted of the flower-powered frequency bullshit.

but... i was happy to see nin again, and even it it was the worst performance from this tour, it was the fucking best performance on that shitty flower powered festival. i also skipped the 3rd day, i just wanted to go home and complain about die ärzte and thier fans :)

whats left to say.. i'll upload some videos and pics soon, and i hope that trent doesnt judge his austrian fans by that one festival performance. i fortgot to buy two shirts.. maybe ill go to munich or bologna. we will see.
Master Traveler
Trent on the tv !
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does someone know what trent excatcly said to the crowd? i remember somehthing like "is there anyone exempt from these boring faces in the first rows" (die ärzte fans) "i isnt happy too being booked between two german bands" "so what are you doing here?" and later something "i've got a wiener schnitzel for you"
Master Traveler
not exactly, and I don't think he said he got a wienerschnitzel for them... I only understood some broken parts of words and wienerschnitzel ... but there was definitly an "in" shortly before the schnitzel...

and first thing he said was if the audience at all knew who they were ... hopefully someone knows the exact words... I'd also be very interested in that
Grand Pontiff
i recorded it, but i dont know how it turned out.. we might have to decipher a little bit. i'll post my pics and vids as soon as they are uploaded, first thing i'll do is upload the talk. should be done in half an hour.

btw: i recorded a large parte of wish afterwards... maybe i'll split them... or i make it tomorrow... but i hope i can get it done soon, and upload it to brightcove and then maybe youtube

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Trent wrote:thank you... So, does anybody here know who the fuck we are? happy people... so what's all those nasty people here at the fucking ?pit? got all ?nets? one your head (pointing at the people in front of him, approx. 6 rows) all bored, talking to your cellphone... looks we got booked between german bands what are you guys here for anyway? - what is it? ..(asking the crowd) why are you so fucking bored? frankly it sucks for us... europe's a weird fucking place man...
i'll upload the mp3 of it somewhere, give me a sec!

edit: its in mp4 format..
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g5i5op
but should work for now..
i found out that it was "Okay, so what's going on here? Let me guess, we got booked between two German bands and you are all just so fucking bored. Maybe someone put something in your Wiener Schnitzel"
Master Traveler
qliv, thank you very much. can I contact you regarding the recording? I'll just send you a pm.

I got a 1 minute video of sin, the sound is quite good for a digicam, but I have problems uploading, so I will post it as soon as it works, might take some days :(
Master of the Ninth Arch
Setlist (in correct order)

Hyperpower!
The Beginning of the End
Sin
March of the Pigs
Something I can Never Have
Closer
Survivalism
Burn
Gave Up
La Mer
The Frail
The Wretched
Wish
The Good Soldier
No, You Don't
Dead Souls
Suck
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

I'm not mad at Trent for being in such a bad mood, all these fuckers didn't understand his music... they just like 3 minutes songs, 4/4 beats, uplifting lyrics, I was really feeling sorry for Trent.
Fuck Die Ärzte, fuck 'em, fuck 'em!!! And fuck all these festival goers who don't appreciate real art even more!
Trent should stop doing Festivals
Grand Pontiff
Trent, if you ever read this, I sincerely apologize for those fucking shitface "Die Ärzte" fans. Please don't judge the austrian audience by those one fucking gig. There were a lot of germans in the crowd too who were just waiting for the headliner.. please come back to Vienna soon
Bricklayer
i know this is a festival tour with a few exceptions, but another concert at the arena would have been a lot better.
i can understand if they don't wanna come back to austria too soon, but maybe, just maybe, they have time for an additional vienna date? :)


btw: the same thing happend to bright eyes a few years ago when they played right before metallica. frequency crowd ftw!
trent was mad - i was mad.....i waited 2 houres to get into the front pit ....but THOSE FUCKING FUCKING ärzte fans where there at 2pm and so the securitys didnt let the nin fans in front of the stage....

the front pit was shit....fuck u ärzte FANS (i dont blame the band - i blame those fucking fans!!!!) they did the same thing to manson, seed and some other bands....thats fucking retarded!!!

....about the frequency festival - the festival was very good - but the booking for nin was SHIIIIT....
Master Traveler
this show was really fucked.

first i wasn't able to enter the wavebreaker while snow patrol because the securities said it was already full. so i just got a place right behind the wb. though i ended up with some other nin-guys we were too few in the crowd to make this an enjoyable experience for both, us and the band.

still: first time hyperp, tbote and tgs live for me.
Master Traveler
jst wrote:this show was really fucked.

first i wasn't able to enter the wavebreaker while snow patrol because the securities said it was already full. so i just got a place right behind the wb. though i ended up with some other nin-guys we were too few in the crowd to make this an enjoyable experience for both, us and the band.

still: first time hyperp, tbote and tgs live for me.
did the same....i could have been an sweet show....light was brilliant and teh sound....but the ärzte fans killed it! (hate them!!!)

....i was wondering - when trent screamed at some guy in the back...was it becouse the screen didnt worked? or why he was pissed of by the ärzte-crowed?!....
Master of the Ninth Arch
i didnt read the whole thread so sorry if i am repeating some things!
but i am sooo angry !! and i jsut came home from the festival
first: they did not play TGD
here my points:
- no hurt!!!
- the light-screen was prepared but wasn't used
- aron made a nice thing at the end of head like a hole: he took the amp and throw it against a professional video-cam which filmed the gig for the video-walls. this was sooo funny.. the camera man must have been sooo disappointed cause his cam fell down like a match!
- trent said: "did they put somethin in your wiener schnitzel" and some things about the crowd being "fucking bored"
- some people started CLAPPING in time during SICNH... how sick is this?!

EDIT: the radio station called fm4 recorded all shows.. i will ask them so get a recording of nin. because this would be an awesome soundboard recording!
Master Traveler
The blame lies with us (NIN). We should never have been booked at that festival in that slot in the first place. The responsible booking agent had been replaced a while ago but some of his shitty bookings remain.
It seems from time to time we get stuck in a festival slot that is unwinnable - playing in front of an audience that doesn't AND SHOULDN'T like us. Just so happens that seems to happen in and around Germany the most. We show up and see band names we've never heard of (nor has anybody else 50 miles outside of Germany) and discover they're huge somehow.
Lesson learned!
Master Traveler
the blame lies for the austrian organisers/presenters (whatever you call them) as well. they knew it would turn out that way. it always does at festivals with die ärzte headlining. same happend to manson two years ago.
Grand Pontiff
∅ wrote:The blame lies with us (NIN). We should never have been booked at that festival in that slot in the first place. The responsible booking agent had been replaced a while ago but some of his shitty bookings remain.
It seems from time to time we get stuck in a festival slot that is unwinnable - playing in front of an audience that doesn't AND SHOULDN'T like us. Just so happens that seems to happen in and around Germany the most. We show up and see band names we've never heard of (nor has anybody else 50 miles outside of Germany) and discover they're huge somehow.
Lesson learned!
uhm... have fun @ rock am see. you're playing right before sportfreunde stiller - another "fun rock" band - who are big in germany, too.
3:15 wrote: Well, Germany is God's blind spot.
no, fuck you. it was just that festival crowd. what do you think would happen in america when nin plays between guns n roses and metallica? (lol, what a weird imagination)
Grand Pontiff
jehuty wrote:uhm... have fun @ rock am see. you're playing right before sportfreunde stiller - another "fun rock" band - who are big in germany, too.
wrong. nin is the headliner, and sportfreunde stiller will have to entertain a nin crowd.

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Bricklayer
jehuty wrote:
∅ wrote:The blame lies with us (NIN). We should never have been booked at that festival in that slot in the first place. The responsible booking agent had been replaced a while ago but some of his shitty bookings remain.
It seems from time to time we get stuck in a festival slot that is unwinnable - playing in front of an audience that doesn't AND SHOULDN'T like us. Just so happens that seems to happen in and around Germany the most. We show up and see band names we've never heard of (nor has anybody else 50 miles outside of Germany) and discover they're huge somehow.
Lesson learned!
uhm... have fun @ rock am see. you're playing right before sportfreunde stiller - another "fun rock" band - who are big in germany, too.
BEFORE Sportfreunde Stiller?
I mean, they're not really big, even here in Germany. And even more crappier than "die ärzte" ever could be. i know why i travel to italy to see you there.
"die ärzte" are not as bad as they are supposed to be here, but their audience is the same everytime, 15-17 year old drunken kiddies.
i really wondered about the fact, that you (and tool) are going play this festival, because it is well-known as a pop-rock-band event with many crappy bands.
anywhere.
i hope you enjoy the shows in germany, not all german a like the drunken kiddies, i think germany has the second biggest NIN-fanbase in the world, so there are a lot of people who like your music and go to festivals not just because of some german-so-called-punk-bands.
enough blabla... see you in italy.

no, fuck you. it was just that festival crowd. what do you think would happen in america when nin plays between guns n roses and metallica? (LoLLerskates *HUGZ*, what a weird imagination)
maybe...some sausages....
Grand Pontiff
the only remaining question is why there were no screens.. i was hoping for tgd me im not and hurt, and i got my camera ready to take some pics of that huge nin logo :)
Master Traveler
jehuty wrote:
uhm... have fun @ rock am see. you're playing right before sportfreunde stiller - another "fun rock" band - who are big in germany, too.
first of all sportfreunde stiller are not that popular (at least anymore. thank god)
second of all they are co-co head. co are billy talent, which means nin are last band playing and the sportfreunde fans will be long gone already. :)

and now this should get back to topic ...
Grand Pontiff
Why is Europe a weird fucking place? I'm pretty sure Trent enjoyed the two Vienna shows in march..

EDIT: oh, and i got a water bottle from jeordie. it hit an ärzte fan who stood 2 meters beside me but he was too stupid to realize that jeordie threw it lol. so i just picked it up :D
oi guys...i know that your're all pissed off an stuff coz of the ärzte fans..that's perfectly understandable..BUT..dont blame the whole festival for a bunch of fuckers...i mean frequency festival is not just NIN..and most of the ppl dont just go there to see one friggin act but more and to experience the whole festival-feeling and stuff...do u get what i mean??
frequency didnt suck at all just coz of one fucked up performance...i mean i saw NIN in march and they were heaps better than at the festival...and trent shouldnt blame a whole continent just coz of some dickheads...and he actually should appreciate the fact that there actually were ppl who wanted to see them as well...he is an arrogant dickhead...i liked him til now...but his comment sucked...he should rather not take NIN-fans for granted than to bitch about some wasted idiots....sorry mate but think bout what you're saying...

all in all the festival rocked....and so did the ärzte...
I have recroded the show, which was beyond weird, and will put it up on dime in a few days. Sound is nice and I kinda like the aggression they put into the performance.

And you gotta love Trent for saying what he thinks and being totally spot on with it.

I do not think he has any less regard for the austrian NIN fans, but I assume he will stay away from festivals around here.
Master Traveler
lovehatehero wrote: all in all the festival rocked....and so did the ärzte...
the festival sucked as it does every year... (and every year I say I won't go there again...)

and I've seen die ärzte 8 times, and that was by far their worst performance. they spoke more than they played songs. and when they played, it sounded awful. you know, if their show would at least have been good, but really, it was more than just weak.
Bricklayer
Anonymous wrote:I have recroded the show, which was beyond weird, and will put it up on dime in a few days. Sound is nice and I kinda like the aggression they put into the performance.

And you gotta love Trent for saying what he thinks and being totally spot on with it.

I do not think he has any less regard for the austrian NIN fans, but I assume he will stay away from festivals around here.
this was me posting
Master Traveler
i've been to this years frequency mostly because of tool and nin only to find out that it's 99point9% about getting drunk and act like a total jerk.
lesson learned, next time nin is in a festival lineup i go check its schedule first before i buy a ticket.


ps: im really, really, REALLY looking forward to this show's recording.
Master of the Ninth Arch
sadly fm4 hastn replied yet. but i'll keep you informed
Master Traveler
mrruin already brought us two decent recordings of the gasometer-concerts in march. godspeed, mr! ;P
Master of the Ninth Arch
you are correct.
but a soundboard recording like from 2000 wiesen gig would just be incredible :]
Bricklayer
Id be very surprised if Trent allows a broadcast of this particular show. Wiesen was something else "Austria, fucking allright!" was what he said back then. "What the fuck are you here for anyway?" is what he said this time.
Master Traveler
blablabal - give us the torrent already! ;p
Bricklayer
jst wrote:blablabal - give us the torrent already! ;p
patience ;) tonight...
Master Traveler
hey - has sombody the fm4 recoding from the wiesen gig of 2000 ???

would be great to get that one!
Master of the Ninth Arch
i have it.. i'll upload it soon ok?
got a response today from fm4 concerning this year's FQ recoring:
"hi, tut mir leid wir haben das konzert nicht mitgeschnitten."
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Master Traveler
mrruin wrote:show is up and available

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=159224
aaaa, i want to buttseks you!
soundsample is promising. too bad i cannot hear myself yelling "MAARCH!" just before motp really starts. ;p
Grand Pontiff
i have no account on dime! is somebody willing to share or help me out? pm would be appreciated.

PLZ HLP MEH
Master Traveler
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Grand Pontiff
incoming a few pics, just one decent, rest is pretty bad.
and a vid of hyperpower and tbote upping that on youtube.


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Hyperpower! + The Beginning Of The End in decent quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riVaqI-rZ44
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Master Traveler
Beta2k wrote:wiesen 2000 recording (top quality)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N0GUGGRL

have fun!
... i love u!!! thx
Master of the Ninth Arch
you are welcome mr. orangutan!

BY THE WAY farin urlaub (from die ärzte) said when they played (after nin) something about an anniversary of elvis presley (30years dead) BUT he said "without elvis there wouldn't be industrial rock and there wouldn't be NIN" THOUGH i dont think this was mean to offend NIN
Master Traveler
at some point of die ärze-show somebody threw a tube of hairstyling-gel on the stage. bela b said " (...) or maybe its trent's (...)" -- blablabla imho.
Master Traveler
the organizer just put a statement online... here's the part on nin ... I will translate it in some mins...
am donnerstag ging es dann von den fans heiss her und speziell der wellenbrecher war heissbegehrt und DÄ fans haben sich dort den ganzen tag nicht mehr weg bewegt.. was dann ja bekanntlich trent nicht "so getaugt" hat. ich hatte gehofft das alle fans auch bei NIN mit gehen würden aber das war dann leider nur teilweise so, allerdings war auch das NIN set anfangs eher zäh... aber mir hat es gut gefallen. DÄ waren dann zuverlässig wie immer ohne stimmproblem auf der bühne und haben bis 3h gespielt zur freude aller...
source: http://forum.frequency.at/viewtopic.php?t=12416

in english:
on thursday it was quite crazy because of the fans. the wavebreaker was in high demand and DÄ fans did not move inside the whole day. as you know trent "didn't like" this. I hoped all the fans would also like NIN but they only did partly
WTF ?!?!?!?
but I have to admit, the beginning of the NIN set was quite 'boring' (note:I guess this word fits best) ... but I liked it. DÄ were reliable and sang without any voice problems on stage until 3 am and made everybody happy
... again WTF. they did make everybody happy... the show was the worst of them I have ever seen it was just shitty.

the translation is not the best, some phrases are quite hard to translate/not existing as such in english, sorry.

edit: and I have in mind that after one hour die ärzte also said something like "you're such a miserable audience. you look bored" .... and laughed while saying that ...
Master Traveler
he posted something again, about nin ...
das stimmt wohl... aber sie waren selber auch schlecht drauf, haben 5 min vor ihrem auftritt ihre komplette vidi crew gefeuert da sie eine (ich sag mal) 100.000 euro vidi wall mit hatten die in der bühne aufgehängt war... und die sie nicht zum laufen gebracht haben... das nervt auch maximal...
nin were in a bad mood already before the show. 5 mins before playing they fired the whole vidi crew (I guess he means video) because they were not able to get the video wall, which I assume cost 100 000 euro, working. that is also nerving very much
don't know if that is true/false whatever.... source is the same as above...
Grand Pontiff
im ranting over there, at the frequency forums undercover as q9.
just making negative statements about die ärzte is pretty funny.
oh well:
can anybody help me out with the torrent on dime? maybe pm me. it would be really appreciated. thanks.

edit: thanks beta2k for helping me out.
the quality of the recording is awesome. thank you very much.
Master Traveler
just wait. every friday, i think, they open registration for a few hours.
Master Traveler
the bootleg from frequency festival is fucking great - too bad that "we all know who!" fuckt the performance up!!

great recording !!
thx
Bricklayer
hello!
is here someone who drive to the rock am see festival from austria?
Master Traveler
if you would read along in upcoming shows you would have found out that some people do. I already answered your email btw ;)