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2007/09/03 - Munich, GER [Circus Krone]

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2007-09-03 Show date
Circus Krone Venue
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2007/09/03 - Munich, GER [Circus Krone]
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Bricklayer
Very, very nice performance tonight!
The venue was even smaller than I expected, about 300 people in the pit plus 500 sitting (just guessing). So there was an amazing atmosphere.

Sorry, I don't remember the setlist ... Maybe a spiral member can post it. ;)
But I do know, that he did NOT play "Hurt", he didn't even try, and that probably just because of this stupid retarded cunt at "Rock Am See".
Will Germany ever see "Hurt" live again, after Frankfurt and Konstanz?!
That sucks big time ...

And I finally got to see the amazing lightshow live myself, after the "Rock Am See" dilemma.
Just amazing, above'em all, as expected after having seen the videos: The Great Destroyer ... Loved it!

At last but not least, Alec Empire.
I enjoyed their show, but the sound was not ideal. His voice was too quiet and a little bit too distorted. And the whole band seemed to be kinda bored ...
Anyway pretty good opener.
Incredible show!

Mayby the best concert I´ve ever been to!

The Great Destoyer was killer!

And they played The Day The Whole World Went Away and Dead Souls!

But sorry, I can`t remember the whole setlist!

Nice venue, perfect show and amazing lights!

Cheers
Master of the Ninth Arch
Just got back after throwing back a few beers. Sorry I didnt get the setlist but its been pretty much the same list as the prior shows minus hurt and suck. we did get last though. and to the genius who thought it was cool to not give Aaron his guitar back when he jumped in the crowd during March of the Pigs, that was NOT cool. Aaron got revenge by popping him in the head after he asked for him to let go of his guitar. Trent didnt speak so much, only a thank you. That venue was the smallest Ive been in, probably smaller than Atl Tabernacle. I was fourth person deep from Trent and was still like 7 feet from him. I guess since it was a small venue, it wasnt blazing hot as usual, so security didnt need to do much with passing water. It was cool seeing NIN in a circus venue though. And for the Alex Empire haters, what the hell are you talking about, they kicked ass.
Bricklayer
setlist

1. hyperpower
2. beginning of the end
3. last
4. sin
5. march of the pigs
6. the frail
7. the wretched
8. closer
9. survivalism
10. burn
11. gave up
12. me, i´m not
13. the great destroyer
14. eraser
15. only
16. wish
17. the good soldier
18. la mer
19. into the void
20. no, you don´t
21. the day the world went away
22. dead souls
23. the hand that feeds
24. head like a hole

(no hurt)

i´m pretty sure about the songs, but not about the order

*edit* some order corrections made, everyone agree? I´m quite sure
Bricklayer
I can tell you guys why they did NOT play HURT this show:

As you know Trent hates people clapping their hands in takt to slow and quiet songs such as Hurt, The Frail or La Mer.

Well, last Munich show end of March this year people did, especially during Hurt. Trent changed tempo of the song during that show to get rid of the clappers but still was pissed - you all know that Trent needs to sink into the ultimate and quiet sadness when he plays Hurt and cries his little heart out.

So, this time the band decided not even to play it to an audience that already starts clapping hands during The Frail - did you actually notice all the "schhhhhhh, silcence" calls until people finally stopped?

Okay, and here is my playlist, a bit different than the other one, tell me if it is correct:

1. Hyperpower
2. The beginning of the end
3. Last
4. Sin
5. March of the pigs
6. The frail
7. The wretched
8. Burn
9. Closer
10. Survivalism
11. Gave up
12. Me I’m not
13. The great destroyer
14. Eraser
15. Only
16. Wish
17. The good soldier
18. La mer
19. Into the void
20. No you don’t
21. The day the world went away
22. Dead souls
23. The hand that feeds
24. Head like a hole

And finally my comment on the show: AWESOME! Great atmosphere, even in the seated audience. Great show with 24 songs!!! Personally I loved the focus on THE FRAGILE songs - still my favorite album, TDTWWA is so good.

Compared to the March shows in Germany, this one had the best setlist, the first Berlin show in March had the best atmosphere (people went crazy already during first song somewhat damaged). The Munich show in March was the worst in all respects.

So... great job, come back to Germany NIN!!! And pleeeaaase play RUINER next time.

PS: I think it was not cool from Trent to bitch about Europe on YouTube.
Master of Achievement
Killer setlist. Great venue. Good Support.
Probably the second best (or maybe the best) NIN show I´ve seen since April.

The size of the venue brought back memories on the spring club tour. It was nice to see them in such a small venue again. Soud was quite louder than appropriate. Slave screams break fucking rulles.

See you in 2008, Trent.
Master of the Ninth Arch
oh. my. god.
this definitely was the best concert i've ever seen!
alec empire was good, it gave me the goosebumps when he entered the stage, although i gues his show could have been better if the audience had done more. unfortunately the sound was very bad, and i can't imagine it was for purpose.
i think he broke up earlier than planned according to the little time-out sign he made to his band.

nin were absolutely great. i adored the setlist, the mood of the audience... everything was right!
though trent didn't leave the stage, aaron did. he jumped right into the crowd, the securitys had some hard work to get him back (touched his guitar and his belly, hehe).
i made a looot of pictures, and it's always the same, you make 100 blurry pictures for a good one.

i've got to get ready for work now, i'll post the pictures in sth like an hour or so.

oh, btw... i think i'm a tourbus magnet. pulled out of the parking lot, and guess what came behind me? beat the street, yeah. :P
Empire was the last shit on earth.I was so happy when he finished,cos i really felt like i had to throw up.

NIN were awesome,although trent was as speakative as a dieing parrot,but what did we expect?!he still hates germany,but who cares.

Me;I'm not and the great destroyaaaaaa were cool,although surving the lightshow in the first row was eh...difficult.

well then,see ya in 2015 on your goodbye tour ;)
Master of the Ninth Arch
and what a fantastic night this was!

at first I was worried about the band's desire to put on a great performance after recent disapointing events, but those guys let hell break lose! I also felt quite uncomfortable with my "seat tickets" and whether I could see enough, but it all turned out to be perfect, as I could see everything as things went loud and fast like I would have never imagined after the last gig in Munich, which was really lame compared to last night! although the setlist (which looks correct btw) was very similar.

I can't believe that I got to see "the wretched" again, since it is one of my all time favorite NIN tracks! and again LAST (holy shit!!!)!

the atmosphere was great for such a small venue and the general sound was awesome. with 24 songs, it was a great experience and the screen blew my mind! "me, I'm not" finally made its way up to my top NIN songs and is very inspiring for me to keep going with electronic music, design and to be excited about it.

pros:

- very nice and unusual venue
- great sound (at least where I was sitting/standing)
- great atmosphere within the majority of the audience
- seats seemed to be packed and as we reached the middle of the set almost everyone stood up and enjoyed the experience
- lots of energy from Trent, great singing, great playing, a quite long set
- I finally got to see "tdtwwa" and "dead souls"
- as an avid Josh Freese fan I was pleased to finally see him play in detail, since unfortunately I could not see shit of him last time
- screaming slave (wow!)

cons:

- bad sound during Alec Empire while the beats were great and pumping
- no NIN logo at the end :/
- you never get to see Alessandro at all, while he seems to be doing so much back there
- I would have expected that Trent said something, since he seemed to be enjoying the show after so many misfortunes...
- the light show during "only" seemed quite disappointing after seeing "beside you in time" on DVD, but the song kicked ass as usual
- I really don't know what the fuzz is about "the good soldier", as I find it a really boring song, but at least live it has got some power

another thing that bugged me and still gets on my nerves after attending several highly anticipated concerts this year and last year are the "fans".
I mean, is everyone a fan that goes to these concerts or just music enthusiasts or bored or whatever? don't get me wrong, but many many people just seem to be assholes, really! some of them are just standing there like they'd rather be somewhere else, while others keeping moving like monkeys with absolutely no sense for rhytm or highs and lows of a song/show (e.g. going ape shit while "the frail", "tdtwwa" etc. are playing) ... I'm glad that the show was so good, otherwise I'd have found myself being bitchy about those idiots which for sure would have ruined "hurt" by screaming and yelling, if Trent had decided to play it!

to make a long story short I have to say that Alec Empire was amazing although their sound was at times rather "noisy", since I've already seen him doing better! Otherwise his new songs are catchy as hell and I can't wait for the new CD to be released. "on fire" is already stuck in my head since they played it! thumbs up!

Another very positive aspect was the sound guy, Jason! This guy is AMAZING and doing a great job! whenever I felt that the energy in the crowd could be a bit more pumping I just had to look at him and I felt reanimated immediately! I really had to push myself not to look at him for too long, otherwise I'd have been missing out what was going on on stage... this guy is crazy!

Anyway, I hope to see NIN touring again for their new record in Germany in 2 or 3 years after the US dates and I do also hope that Trent has learned his lesson not to play festivals in Middle-Europe ever again! "Stick to the UK Trent, as they seem to know how to put on a great festival and can appreciate a band like yours!"

Thank you Josh, Jeordie, Aaron, Alessandro, Trent and the whole NIN crew! I owe you one!
Master of the Ninth Arch
so, here are the photos i've taken.

enjoy!
Bricklayer
setlist seems to be the same except some order issues

i corrected my setlist, now im quite sure its correct, my memory came back this morning :)

anyway, awesome performance, but trent saying nothing than thank you a few times
Master of the Ninth Arch
very nice photos Lili! thank you!
Bricklayer
I saw Trent while he watched alec empire.. he hid himself between the boxes lol

awesome pics Lili..thanks !
Master of the Ninth Arch
everything said 'cept:

- alessandro threw his _keyboard_ into the audience after HLAH
- 2 tambourines for the crowd from trent / some water bottles
- aaron going crazy after HLAH (quite the same as you can see at the rock am see recap pt 1 video)
- trent saying "dankeschöne" = "thank you"

great show!

EDIT: did someone record this show??
Bricklayer
I have a camera with great Mic with but I decided not to use it in the pit because lots of people had cameras _and_ were sitting so they could certainly make better videos than I could have in the middle of the crowd.

And I also don't think that Trent was angry because of some people clapping and shouting during the frail/la mer .. I mean come on, that's just ridiculous. Any crowd in the whole world would react like this. Most people were completely silent and the others stopped after 5 or 10 seconds.

NIN played 24 songs, Hurt was just not planned I guess. We got Dead Souls (which Trent seemed to enjoy, especially the clapping), TDTHWWA which was great too and Last.
Thats even one song more than they played at Wolverhampton. (23 incl. Hurt)

I also think that I heard Trent speak some sentences after the first few songs but you couldn't understand it because it was just too loud directly after the song.
Bricklayer
Ive finally got home and in front of a computer!

Its cost hundreds of pounds just to see Nine inch nails in munich and it was worth every penny!

It was the 8th time ive seen them and probably the best!

everything from the setlist to the venue and the sound, also having alec empire as support was awesome!

so ive now seen the in england, france and germany.....next time they tour europe i am so doing that again!
Bricklayer
Hi,

Awesome show, right!



We are searching for Videoclips and Pictures from this Show and will try to put all that together for a full Concert Video. If anyone has anything to offer for that use, please contact me. Thanks.

P.S.: Also good Quality Audio recording would be welcome of course...

P.S.... we also did some stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SQzIl7UWHc
Master of the Ninth Arch
oh this is great, thank you!
actually i took a small video, but unfortunately it won't play and i have no idea why! :(
Bricklayer
Could you also upload those videos on www.rapidshare.com if they are not too big ?

The sound is fine but the on youtube you lose so much quality for the picture.
Master of Achievement
I´d prefer www.mediafire.com if possible.
THX
Bricklayer
It's too much data for now to upload all stuff. Also, I will have to collect all that stuff from various people (hopefully some will join this idea) and put it all together. Surely, we'll upload the finished project, if we can finish it, if not, you'll get the single Videos..

To satisfy you a bit, here is the "Last" - Clip from yesterday in better quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HZW0B0K9
Bricklayer
No need to hurry, I just wanted to bring up the idea. ;)

thanks for all the work, I'm looking forward to the collected videos.
Thx for that movie clip!
indeed it was a great show with a great crowd. Too funny that you can hear people saying "shhh" during quiet songs :). I think trent was in a great mood! thx for all!


Any chance to get a bootleg?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Yes, you can hear people saying "shhhhhhhh...." several times, which I find is very nice and sweet. ;)

Ok, everybody agrees it was a great show. So do I. :D After witnessing what happened at Rock am See, I was kinda afraid of this gig in "shitty Germany" getting ruined again or something. Well, wow! I still can't believe how awesome it was! Nice venue, nice crowd (though I wish people could be a little bit crazier), and we finally got to see the fancy lights, let alone the surprising setlist! The Frail was so beautiful, I could almost cry. I can totally forget about waiting in the wind with my wet coat/pants/shoes for 1.5 hour. Damn, I was frozen and couldn't stop shaking like a leaf, but it's worth it!

Thanks for the video clip! I think I can see my hand somewhere, but I dunno which one. :D
Beta2k wrote:trent saying "dankeschöne" = "thank you"
Really? I didn't notice that. It would be funny to hear! :P

Now I need a bootleg.
This was the best NIN show that I have seen since the Fragility Tour. Perfect setlist (to be honest, I didn't miss Hurt too much in there), awesome venue, a nice crowd and breathtaking visuals (the great destroyer !!!!!).

Did you guys see the lights/sound guy? He was dancing throughout the whole show while working!!
Master Traveler
I have to say, I was quite happy they didn't play hurt, I was so scared some asshole would ruin it .. so better no hurt at all.. ;)

I'll insert some of my pics here soon...unfortunately the quality is really bad, as my camera was broken and I didn't have the chance to get a new one yet.

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to see all of them go here!
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Bricklayer
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen, NIN @ TEL AVIV HERE I FUCKING COME
Master of the Ninth Arch
thanks alice! *i love* :)
aah, i'm going to miss nin gigs and all you nice people i've headed there with! *huuugs*
Bricklayer
I agree, what an amazing gig. The atmosphere was very different from the concerts I attended in Berlin and Frankfurt, much less hostile. There it was hard to enjoy the music sometimes because everyone was pushing so hard, I almost had the feeling I would get crushed.
Not this time, everyone had enough space even in front of the stage.
Too bad they didn't play the hurt encore, I would have loved to watch it combined with those cool snow effects.
Still, getting to see Last, Burn and TDTWWA was a real treat. :)
Bricklayer
resistent wrote:If you haven't found 'em already... :

"Burn" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=S_No7ekkMR0

and

"Me Im not" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=FbwW534v4ys

next up will be TDTWWA...

STILL SEARCHING FOR MUCH MORE VIDEOS TO PUT THE FULL SHOW TOGETHER. HELP!!!
Hey there,

your clips from the show are amazing !!!!!

Do you have more of these to put on YouTube? Having Only or Closer in that quality would be awesome.

Also if you feel like putting Me Im Not, TDTWWA or Burn on Megaupload, I am very happy to download these!!

Thx, sa1
Bricklayer
from alec's myspace-blog:
hey you!

just got back from Munich - we had such a fun time....hanging out with old friends again!

everyone from NIN was super nice. it was a blast.....

I am finishing my mix with Black Strobe tonight and tomorrow we all party in Berlin right?

all the best,

Alec


Ps: to answer some questions some of you asked per email earlier...yes, we didn't play as loud as usual, we didn't use our normal lighting, and we didn't have time for more songs - it was a Nine Inch Nails show, so we make changes to fit their set up (especially when it's squeezed into a circus tent like this!) and not because we hate you ;) - it's all cool....don't worry there is no conspiracy... this was all about doing a great and special concert together.
Master Traveler
if you need pictures, you can take mine - but you don't have to ;)

while waiting for the show in the rain (with elodia) I knew I was getting really sick .... anyway... it was worth it :D
Master of the Ninth Arch
Soengge- wrote:I agree, what an amazing gig. The atmosphere was very different from the concerts I attended in Berlin and Frankfurt, much less hostile. There it was hard to enjoy the music sometimes because everyone was pushing so hard, I almost had the feeling I would get crushed.
Not this time, everyone had enough space even in front of the stage.
Too bad they didn't play the hurt encore, I would have loved to watch it combined with those cool snow effects.
Still, getting to see Last, Burn and TDTWWA was a real treat. :)
YOU HAD SPACE!? how did you managed to have space? i had trouble to get my arms back down every time i lifted them to cheer!!!



...and why is aaron clever enough to put his hanky out of his back pocket before jumping off stage? :(
i wonder how many people grab his butt every time he hops into the audience... i hope for him that he enjoys it. :D
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Bricklayer
Lili wrote:
YOU HAD SPACE!? how did you managed to have space? i had trouble to get my arms back down every time i lifted them to cheer!!!
I dunno, I was standing in the fourth row just in front of Jeordie and compared to the other NIN concerts I attended it was quite peaceful there, I thought. I still remember getting swept of my feet twice in Frankfurt...

Anyways, did anyone notice Jeordie's face before giving the mic into the crowd during THTF? Hilarious! :D Would be great if anybody took a pic of that expression.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Soengge- wrote:
Lili wrote:YOU HAD SPACE!? how did you managed to have space? i had trouble to get my arms back down every time i lifted them to cheer!!!
I dunno, I was standing in the fourth row just in front of Jeordie and compared to the other NIN concerts I attended it was quite peaceful there, I thought. I still remember getting swept of my feet twice in Frankfurt...

Anyways, did anyone notice Jeordie's face before giving the mic into the crowd during THTF? Hilarious! :D Would be great if anybody took a pic of that expression.
I agree. I went to the gigs in Berlin (the first night, 2nd row) and Frankfurt (3rd row) too. The crowd in Frankfurt was insane. For a long time all I cared about was how to survive, not to enjoy the music, but we got WITT so I don't really mind ;). The Berlin gig was crazy too, but not that horrible. People in Munich were more peaceful. I kinda regretted that I didn't bring my camera because I also found there was enough space for me to take some pics (2nd row). I couldn't even take out my camera in Berlin. And I didn't bring it to Frankfurt, which was absolutely a right decision. Like I wrote in my previous post I actually wish the crowd could be a little bit crazier, but the good thing was, you could focus on music itself more. :)

I don't remember exactly how Jeordie's face looked like, but I remember we waved and screamed to Jeordie everytime he leaned towards us. I though the crowd wanted him to jump like Aaron did, but he didn't want. He even stepped onto a box in front of him but walked back later. Maybe he was pissed: what do you want from me? Take the mic and now leave me alone! Or felt sorry: damn, they want me to jump but I can't. Let me give you guys something else for fun. So the mic was given into crowd. Just my thoughts. Never mind! :D
Master of the Ninth Arch
here is one very good youtube-video from the start of the show (it REALLY catches the live atmosphere)

best moments:
- when the intro starts (i mean these noisy sound from hyperpower)
- when the guitar of hyperpower starts
- when the light-show starts
- when trent comes onstage

ENJOY (and thx for the guy who filmed this)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6QQYqztvsk4
The crowd in Frankfurt was just nuts and totally violent. I prefered the crowd at this show since there was a very good, positive and still energetic mood.
Master Traveler
Soengge- wrote:Anyways, did anyone notice Jeordie's face before giving the mic into the crowd during THTF? Hilarious! :D Would be great if anybody took a pic of that expression.
I dunno if you mean that one, but I remember he held out his tongue quite some time...
Bricklayer
We just put up 'dead souls' from munich "MULTI-ANGLE" !! *g*

Well, this is a test / taste of what we are trying to do. Made out of three clips we got so far from this song..

Imagine this with a complete, better sounding Audio track.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZK5MJPfX4
Bricklayer
Stibbi wrote:I dunno if you mean that one, but I remember he held out his tongue quite some time...
No, didn't see that one. Seems like he had a lot of fun though. :P

resistent wrote:We just put up 'dead souls' from munich "MULTI-ANGLE" !! *g*

Well, this is a test / taste of what we are trying to do. Made out of three clips we got so far from this song..

Imagine this with a complete, better sounding Audio track.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZK5MJPfX4
Great jobs guys! Keep up the good work!
Bricklayer
hey guys,awesome show!
I want to thank everybody who helped me with info before the show,the guy who bought me lunch/dinner while waiting in the spiral..
and the guy with the NINtendo tshirt please pm me!
you can see who I am at
myspace.com/febex
email febe@shaw.ca
last name barnabe
Master Traveler
I sent a request, but I didn't need to fill in anything ?! anyway, I think I saw you queuing, elodia and me were there too :)

glad it all worked out for you :)

and I loved that NINtendo t.shirt !!! ;)
Bricklayer
alcie wrote:I sent a request, but I didn't need to fill in anything ?! anyway, I think I saw you queuing, elodia and me were there too :)

glad it all worked out for you :)

and I loved that NINtendo t.shirt !!! ;)
those where the stunning blue eyes right ?
Master of the Ninth Arch
stunning blue eyes? whooo? :P
Bricklayer
Lili wrote:stunning blue eyes? whooo? :P
I thought they were blue , arent `t they ?!
Master of the Ninth Arch
whose eyes anyway??? the guy in the nintendo shirt? (i kept watching someone else :D )
Bricklayer
Lili wrote:whose eyes anyway??? the guy in the nintendo shirt? (i kept watching someone else :D )
no that was me.. I was looking 4 a girl.
Master Traveler
well, maybe then you should go into more detail on who you are looking for :D
Bricklayer
alcie wrote:well, maybe then you should go into more detail on who you are looking for :D
Nothing , but I think it was YOU with the blue eyes ?!
Master Traveler
me?

erm. my eyes are brown, but I had blue contacts .... but as there were other people too, who might have blue eyes, I wouldn't be too sure it was me?
Bricklayer
alcie wrote:me?

erm. my eyes are brown, but I had blue contacts .... but as there were other people too, who might have blue eyes, I wouldn't be too sure it was me?
First sold ticket ?
Master Traveler
no. ;)
resistent wrote:We just put up 'dead souls' from munich "MULTI-ANGLE" !! *g*

Well, this is a test / taste of what we are trying to do. Made out of three clips we got so far from this song..

Imagine this with a complete, better sounding Audio track.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZK5MJPfX4
Wow - perfect, thanks!

Have to say, this was my first concert and I'm still completely amazed! Never thought, it could be THAT fantastic!

Any rumours bout bootlegs?

;)